Fairfield properties - their points system

Just bought Fairfield points on e-bay pertaining to 2 resorts but would like to use these points for other Fairfield Property resorts. My deeds don't clarify who I go to regarding an exchange; what it would costs, etc. Has anyone a central phone number to call them? Sincerely appreciate any help. Bob

You will be getting a letter from Fairfield after your deed is recorded with them. If you had a good transfer agent, they should have sent Fairfield a copy of the recorded deed. It cost $50.00 per name on the deed per property for Fairfield to do the recording of your resort into their system. If you receive the FairShare Plus plan with your purchase, you will be able to book at any Fairfield resort using your points. If the the FairShare Plus Plan is not included, then you will have to join to be able to use your points. For exchanges you will have to belong to RCI or II depending on the property that you bought. Fairfields telephone number is 800 922-0855 for new owner welcome. The number is 800 251-8736 for other matters. You won't be able to use your points until your deed is recorded with Fairfield. I hope this helps.

Couple of additions/corrections:

1) Fairfield now goes by the name Wyndham 2) Fee for points transfers is $100 3) Another reservations number is 800-225-3522

You need to get your account number from them to do anything. Did you use a closing co? if so, call them for status.

stanleyf5 wrote:

You will be getting a letter from Fairfield after your deed is recorded with them. If you had a good transfer agent, they should have sent Fairfield a copy of the recorded deed. It cost $50.00 per name on the deed per property for Fairfield to do the recording of your resort into their system. If you receive the FairShare Plus plan with your purchase, you will be able to book at any Fairfield resort using your points. If the the FairShare Plus Plan is not included, then you will have to join to be able to use your points. For exchanges you will have to belong to RCI or II depending on the property that you bought. Fairfields telephone number is 800 922-0855 for new owner welcome. The number is 800 251-8736 for other matters. You won't be able to use your points until your deed is recorded with Fairfield. I hope this helps.

Thanks for the information. It will be very useful to sort out what I have and need. Bob

john1671 wrote:

Couple of additions/corrections:

1) Fairfield now goes by the name Wyndham 2) Fee for points transfers is $100 3) Another reservations number is 800-225-3522

You need to get your account number from them to do anything. Did you use a closing co? if so, call them for status.

I appreciate the additional information. I am aware of Wyndham and that RCI is linked also. Bob

We own a LOT of Fairfield/Wyndham. People ask how many weeks we own and I don't know how to answer. It all depends on the time of year we want to travel and the size of the unit we need. If we stay at a resort Sunday to Friday morning, the points per night are much lower than Friday/Saturday nights and we can go darn near forever! If we are willing to take whatever is available within 60 days from check-in, we'd need half as many points as usual. It can be a complicated system, but it has worked very very well for us.

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RCI and Fairfield are no longer affialiated.. This happened when Fairfield became Wyndham.

jilld44 wrote:

RCI and Fairfield are no longer affialiated.. This happened when Fairfield became Wyndham.

That does not mean that Fairfield/Wyndham resorts no longer use RCI. Most do exchange through RCI though some use II.

MD

I am a Fairfield/Wyndham property owner and also a member of Fairshare Plus. I have considered purchasing more points in the resale market in order to increase my total points and be able to trade into Fairfield's newer resorts. My fear is that the points will not transfer or be recognized by Fairfield in the Fairshare Plus Program. There are alot of 77000 and 105000 point timeshares in the resale market at some very good prices. If they can not be combined with my current points they are pretty much worthless to me. Afterall, 77000 points is not going to get you prime time.

Does anyone know if the points will combine with my current points for the purpose of trading In Fairshare Plus.

tonyp50 wrote:

I am a Fairfield/Wyndham property owner and also a member of Fairshare Plus. I have considered purchasing more points in the resale market in order to increase my total points and be able to trade into Fairfield's newer resorts. My fear is that the points will not transfer or be recognized by Fairfield in the Fairshare Plus Program. There are alot of 77000 and 105000 point timeshares in the resale market at some very good prices. If they can not be combined with my current points they are pretty much worthless to me. Afterall, 77000 points is not going to get you prime time.

Does anyone know if the points will combine with my current points for the purpose of trading In Fairshare Plus.

Hi. I can only speak to my own experience. I bought 154 ,000 UDI points from Fairfield directly and am a member of Fairshare Plus. I then bought 305,000 Fairfield points in one transaction from a seller on the internet. The 305,000 points comprised a fixed week and two other contracts of 49,000 and 67,000 UDI points all at the same resort. As part of the developer purchase I purchased Go For More Points totaling 308,000 points. Upon recording of the 305,000 point purchase with Fairfield, I became a VIP permanently and a VIP Gold for two years. I am not sure how it works, but you can buy a Fairfield Property and convert an existing non Fairfield property to PIC points and they count toward VIP status. I assume, if you originally bought from the developer, then a resale package of Fairfield points would count toward VIP status if placed in the same membership ownership account. My reccomendation would be to buy enough points on resale to reach VIP status with your developer points. If you did not buy from the developer initially, I don't know what the Fairfield policy is. I would request a written response to your question from Fairfield. Hope this helps. Stan.

stanleyf5 wrote:

tonyp50 wrote:

I am a Fairfield/Wyndham property owner and also a member of Fairshare Plus. I have considered purchasing more points in the resale market in order to increase my total points and be able to trade into Fairfield's newer resorts. My fear is that the points will not transfer or be recognized by Fairfield in the Fairshare Plus Program. There are alot of 77000 and 105000 point timeshares in the resale market at some very good prices. If they can not be combined with my current points they are pretty much worthless to me. Afterall, 77000 points is not going to get you prime time.

Does anyone know if the points will combine with my current points for the purpose of trading In Fairshare Plus.

Hi. I can only speak to my own experience. I bought 154 ,000 UDI points from Fairfield directly and am a member of Fairshare Plus. I then bought 305,000 Fairfield points in one transaction from a seller on the internet. The 305,000 points comprised a fixed week and two other contracts of 49,000 and 67,000 UDI points all at the same resort. As part of the developer purchase I purchased Go For More Points totaling 308,000 points. Upon recording of the 305,000 point purchase with Fairfield, I became a VIP permanently and a VIP Gold for two years. I am not sure how it works, but you can buy a Fairfield Property and convert an existing non Fairfield property to PIC points and they count toward VIP status. I assume, if you originally bought from the developer, then a resale package of Fairfield points would count toward VIP status if placed in the same membership ownership account. My reccomendation would be to buy enough points on resale to reach VIP status with your developer points. If you did not buy from the developer initially, I don't know what the Fairfield policy is. I would request a written response to your question from Fairfield. Hope this helps. Stan.

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Yes, Stan is absolutely right. Go directly to Wyndham with these detailed questions and get the most up to date answers. The FF/Wyndham annual directory has extensive information on how the system works, but does not address the specific situation of resale points. I know there was talk about not allowing resale points to count toward VIP, but don't know how it all came out. (Owners hated the idea.)

There was also discussion of how many non-Fairfields in total anyone was allowed to add as PICs to FF contracts. It used to be one per Fairfield contract, no limit to how many contracts. A PIC (Personal Interval Choice) is a non-FF/W resort which owners can add to a FF/W contract. The Fairfield point equivalent was counted toward Fairfield VIP status, but you did not actually have those points to use with FF unless you chose to deposit that week with FF in a particular year. ( One does pay an annual fee to have the right to PIC a non-FF resort, whether you choose to excercise the right or not in any particular year.) I doubt that one can combine a PIC with a Fairfield resale contract. (There are some perks to buying from the developer!)

If you buy resort time on the resale market in a non-FF/W, you would need to buy a new FF/W contract on which to add it as a PIC. The minimum buy is usually 105K.

MD

stanleyf5 wrote:

tonyp50 wrote:

I am a Fairfield/Wyndham property owner and also a member of Fairshare Plus. I have considered purchasing more points in the resale market in order to increase my total points and be able to trade into Fairfield's newer resorts. My fear is that the points will not transfer or be recognized by Fairfield in the Fairshare Plus Program. There are alot of 77000 and 105000 point timeshares in the resale market at some very good prices. If they can not be combined with my current points they are pretty much worthless to me. Afterall, 77000 points is not going to get you prime time.

Does anyone know if the points will combine with my current points for the purpose of trading In Fairshare Plus.

Hi. I can only speak to my own experience. I bought 154 ,000 UDI points from Fairfield directly and am a member of Fairshare Plus. I then bought 305,000 Fairfield points in one transaction from a seller on the internet. The 305,000 points comprised a fixed week and two other contracts of 49,000 and 67,000 UDI points all at the same resort. As part of the developer purchase I purchased Go For More Points totaling 308,000 points. Upon recording of the 305,000 point purchase with Fairfield, I became a VIP permanently and a VIP Gold for two years. I am not sure how it works, but you can buy a Fairfield Property and convert an existing non Fairfield property to PIC points and they count toward VIP status. I assume, if you originally bought from the developer, then a resale package of Fairfield points would count toward VIP status if placed in the same membership ownership account. My reccomendation would be to buy enough points on resale to reach VIP status with your developer points. If you did not buy from the developer initially, I don't know what the Fairfield policy is. I would request a written response to your question from Fairfield. Hope this helps. Stan.

jilld44 wrote:

RCI and Fairfield are no longer affialiated.. This happened when Fairfield became Wyndham.

When Cendant split off their companies, and made their hospitality division Wyndham.

RCI is under the Wyndham flag. So is all the Cendant hotels, including Ramada, HoJo, Days Inn, Knights Inn.

All the timeshare divisions are also under the Wyndham Flag, including what was Fairfield, WorldMark/TrendWest, and a few others.

They just sold their Peppertree resorts (Equivest) to another company, maybe due to the Blue Beards problems

kevinw142 wrote:

stanleyf5 wrote:

tonyp50 wrote:

I am a Fairfield/Wyndham property owner and also a member of Fairshare Plus. I have considered purchasing more points in the resale market in order to increase my total points and be able to trade into Fairfield's newer resorts. My fear is that the points will not transfer or be recognized by Fairfield in the Fairshare Plus Program. There are alot of 77000 and 105000 point timeshares in the resale market at some very good prices. If they can not be combined with my current points they are pretty much worthless to me. Afterall, 77000 points is not going to get you prime time.

Does anyone know if the points will combine with my current points for the purpose of trading In Fairshare Plus.

Hi. I can only speak to my own experience. I bought 154 ,000 UDI points from Fairfield directly and am a member of Fairshare Plus. I then bought 305,000 Fairfield points in one transaction from a seller on the internet. The 305,000 points comprised a fixed week and two other contracts of 49,000 and 67,000 UDI points all at the same resort. As part of the developer purchase I purchased Go For More Points totaling 308,000 points. Upon recording of the 305,000 point purchase with Fairfield, I became a VIP permanently and a VIP Gold for two years. I am not sure how it works, but you can buy a Fairfield Property and convert an existing non Fairfield property to PIC points and they count toward VIP status. I assume, if you originally bought from the developer, then a resale package of Fairfield points would count toward VIP status if placed in the same membership ownership account. My reccomendation would be to buy enough points on resale to reach VIP status with your developer points. If you did not buy from the developer initially, I don't know what the Fairfield policy is. I would request a written response to your question from Fairfield. Hope this helps. Stan.

Stan, I am also interested in purchasing additional points in Wyndham and I also am currently a VIP owner. I have been told that any resale property would count in my available point usage but it would not add up toward VIP Gold staus. Do you have any suggestions? KW

Hi. I don't have a reliable answer. I have read on sites that you have to purchase another developer property to have the resale points count toward VIP or VIP Gold status, but I don't know the rules. Stan.

I'm considering buying into the Wyndham system using resale, but would like to read their official explanation of how the system works.

Where can I find it?

Thanks,

Dave

davidh657 wrote:

I'm considering buying into the Wyndham system using resale, but would like to read their official explanation of how the system works.

Where can I find it?

Thanks,

Dave

You can go to their site, www.wyndhamvacationresorts.com and then click on "Ask a specialist". You can also browse the resorts. However, their directory includes pages and pages. You are not going to understand this in 100 words or less.

If you buy resale into Wyndham, I'd strongly suggest that you do get Fairshare Plus and UDI (Undivided interest in a building). It is Fairshare Plus that allows you to use your points in any of their resorts, not just your Home resort. If you buy only resale points, you may never get to be VIP. I am unsure whether they might let you combine an existing resale purchase with a developer package just as they do allow one to count a PIC which is NOT Wyndham toward VIP. Ask.

There is no extra charge for you to use your Wyndham points in a Wyndham resort that is not your Home resort. This is a great savings over paying exchange company fees every time you want to roam!

At its most basic, you choose which Wyndham resort you want to visit by looking at the directory or on line and also what dates. (Two nights is the minimum allowed stay.) How many points you will need to book a unit of a certain size depends on when as well as where. For example, if I want a week in Orlando during the 24th week of the year (Prime time) in a 2 bedroom Deluxe, I can choose one of 4 resorts: Orlando International Resort Club, Star Island, or Cypress Palms for 175,000 pts or the new Bonnet Creek on the Disney grounds for 224,000 pts. If I wanted Bonnet Creek but only owned 175,000 pts, I could only afford a week in Value season or a partial week in High or Prime! If you want a partial week, remember that weekends cost more points than other days.

A 2BR Deluxe (sleeps 6) is like a 2BR apartment with a full kitchen. A 2BR lock-off is composed of two 1BR units which can be booked together or separately. Together, they will sleep 8 with the use of a hide-a-bed in each living room. (2 kitchens also) Most resorts also offer studio units which usually have a partial kitchen and a combined bedroom/living room. (Most sleep 4) Many resorts also have some 3BR and a few 4BR units.

If you are anxious to regularly get a specific time at a busy resort, buy there. Owners may book their Home resort 13 months in advance. Other Wyndham owners can not try to reserve there until 11 months before their wanted date. Obviously, it is not realistic to think we can all be in the same place at the same time! In any case plan ahead and reserve as early as you can.

When you initially buy will determine your "use year". At the start of each Use Year you get your points again. However, with Wyndham you CAN make a reservation for the next Use Year, using points from that new year and not pay maintenance fees in advance in order to do so. However, you can NOT carry over this year's points into the next Use Year. If you can't use them all, you may rent them to another Wyndham owner, reserve a unit and try to rent it out, or convert your points into a week to bank with RCI or II (depending on which company your Home resort uses.) Banked weeks can be exchanged into some other week at another resort within two years. There is an exchange fee.

Was that way more than you really wanted to know? MD

The main number for Wyndham is 800-251-8736. For questions about the resale contracts you just purchased you would have to talk with Title Services and provide them with the contract numbers you purchased. If you are not already a Wyndham member they will most likely assign each contract to a seperate member ID. Ask them if they can give you one member ID and have the contracts linked to that ID. You can also ask the transfer company to write send a cover letter to Wyndham requesting one member id number. If you are working toward Wyndham VIP status (Gold, Platinum, etc) Wyndham will only accept points purchased through Wyndham or non-Wyndham resorts transfered into their PIC program to be counted toward VIP status. Other things you can ask about would be their Fairshare Plus program, reservation timelines (13 month window, 10month window, etc.). Also make sure you understand the annual maintenance fees and any assessments associated with the contracts you purchased.

If you cannot use all your points, will Wyndham rent them for you? I've been told by my rep but just wanted to confirm.

davidb410 wrote:

If you cannot use all your points, will Wyndham rent them for you? I've been told by my rep but just wanted to confirm.

Don't hold your breath. I've gone through Fairfield's related rental company twice with less than sterling results. They offer your week for rent by the day, for one thing, so prospective renters can cherry pick and leave most of the week to languish. You probably won't cover the maintenance fees.

If someone has had a more positive experience, please speak up. Perhaps Wyndham has something new going in that department but our recent owner updates have not mentioned this.

Again, if you have enough points to reserve even a blue studio with Wyndham, you can deposit it for future exchange through RCi or whatever exchange company you use. You can sell excess points to another Wyndham owner. (See RedWishes) Or if there are enough points involved to make it worth your while, you can put them into the Points Credit Pool, but that must be done early in the year. MD