Smugglers notch resort

Do you get access to all of the amenities at the Smuggler's notch resort by renting one of these timeshares? For example, could we participate in all the Smug Notch resort activities and use the water parks?

In order to get access to all the amenities in summer, you will need to purchase a Smuggs pass ($280 +tax) which covers all the people staying in the unit for the entire week. This gets you free access to the Mountainside and Notchville waterparks in addition to access to other amenities and discounts for other services. The complete details of what is included with the pass can be seen here: http://www.smuggs.com/pages/summer/rci/summerBenefits.php

If you only want to use the waterparks for a day or so , a one day pass to Mountainside or Notchville is about $40 per person.

In addition, each building has a pool or pool complex for which you only need to be staying in that building.

is it possible to rent a condo for 3 night or do you need to stay the week?

edwardf52 wrote:

is it possible to rent a condo for 3 night or do you need to stay the week?

Hi,

Most timeshares are rented by the week but please contact the owers to ask if a shorter period of time can be worked out.

Thanks,
Marty

any one have ski passes for sale? i am going the week of jan 17,

Our family went to Smuggs on RCI exchange so I may not be the best to answer question. I will say my experience with the Smuggs travel planners through their web site contact email has always been very good and they should answer your question.

With RCI exchange we purchased a week family Smuggs Pass for 179 dollars. Your family will be entered in computer so their are now discounts for about everything you do, plus several free activities. We have gone in the 2nd week of Jan the last 2 years and Smuggs is quiet. Ski camps are great for the kids but was majority of cost of our whole trip however I highly recommend.

Do pay attention to charges as not all staff is up to speed. Some do not know what a Smuggs Pass was, but if you purchase, it appears that they will treat you like a full paying regular time share guest. It saved our family of four after paying for smuggs pass, maybe 100 dollars or so based on ski lift discounts, Camp discounts(this saved us as we had 2 kids with 15% camp discount, over 4 days) Otherwise without doing camp, the discount may have not been worth it other than they treat you a little better. We purchased some store items in the Mountain Outfitters and received discount there.

So to answer your question, I would enquire about the Smuggs Pass if you rent privately and see if it is an option. If so, I would think it might be the way to go just to have easy access to all activities and just make sure you are aware of the discount rates so you get what is available.

On a side note, My wife and I love the Stella Notte Restaurant across the street. Great food and Atmosphere.

R Bailey
Auburn AL.

Smugglers has really gone down hill since the resort tried to stick it to the homeowners and the lawsuit was filed. God only knows when the courts will settle this and if the resort will even survive. The tension in the air is just no place for kids.

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-vtdce/case_no-1:2008cv00186/case_id-17009
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This is only my opinion, but it has really ruined the place and I intend to dump my place this year after our week is used.

Do you even know what this law suit is about? I believe there is a contract dispute between the full owners and management about their agreement regarding rentals, maintenance responsibilities and other obligations of both parties towards the other. I see no reason that this should have an impact on the resort activities especially because club owners and share owners (the majority of the owners) are not affected by it.

If the resort activities have been curtailed, it is because of the economic situation. It is hard to pay a giant staff to serve very few guests and I believe they are doing the best they can in this environment.

That is not what I am hearing. You sound like you work for the resort or something. It sounds like you know exactly what the dispute is about and even know the breakdown of the various homeowner classes.

When I was there all people were talking about was how unfair the resort was and how upset the staff were about what was going on.

I am sure the economy is not helping, but if the homeowners have resorted to class action lawsuits it can't be good. I am not saying don't go there, but it is something that I did not know about and shoudl be shared.

This affect the value of resort in my opinion. You are of course entitled to your opinion.

kathy2500 wrote:

Do you even know what this law suit is about? I believe there is a contract dispute between the full owners and management about their agreement regarding rentals, maintenance responsibilities and other obligations of both parties towards the other. I see no reason that this should have an impact on the resort activities especially because club owners and share owners (the majority of the owners) are not affected by it.

If the resort activities have been curtailed, it is because of the economic situation. It is hard to pay a giant staff to serve very few guests and I believe they are doing the best they can in this environment.

I fail to see how a lawsuit by a few full owners will affect the vacation experience of people in units owned by thousands of others?

Like I said everyone is entitled to their opinion. What I heard was that there were over 300 full time homeowners and that there was a war going on. You can think whatever you want, but this is what I heard first hand and I find it curious that you find it difficult to believe.

I am not saying that the mouse dude is going to get tarred and feathered, but I will not make an investment in the place and I am concerned about their viability given the market conditions.

People are upset and I don’t want to be around upset people talking about settlements and lawsuits on vacation.

Once again. Do you get paid by the resort for posting these messages? If you do and you split your fee I will change my tune.

Well - this has been interesting reading. I have vacationed at Smuggs the past 3 years and last year purchased a week. My family has enjoyed the time there and I have found the facilities clean, the activities well run and the time together priceless! I am aware of "additional cost" when you rent vs exchange. However I have not experienced any problems.

I am very interested in the law suit discussed. I have been unable to find any information about it. Can someone please include some links to inform the other readers?

Thanks -

I don't have complete details (I do not work for the resort nor do I have any interest in this), but the lawsuit grew out of a contract dispute between the resort management and the full owners, i.e., owners of homes in the village that are owned 52 weeks a year. There had been a management contract between the parties that was being renogotiated. However, there was not much progress so the resort management decided to force the issue and terminate the existing contract with something like 18 months notice. I don't think they have been able to come to an agreement on a new contract. The owners have sued the resort saying that they don't have to have an agreement with the resort management but should be able to contract with another party, hence the anti-trust suit. I have no idea how that is progressing--the information is not available as far as I know.

Please understand that this does not affect club owners (1 week owners) or share owners (multi-week owners) as we have a separate management contract that is not part of this dispute.

Hope this helps.

Thanks. I did find some information regarding the dispute between the "full time owners" and Smuggs. I think there are good points on both sides of many of the issues I read.
As an RCI member, I did not find anything that would impact trades or extra vacation offers that RCI provides. If someone has experience with Smuggs not honoring "vacation week owners" use of the facility or charging extra during their vacation - I would be very interested in hearing about that.

There was very little talk about the suit when I was up there this summer. Most weeks owners that have even heard of it understand it involves the full owners and has no effect on the weeks owners. The staff seemed great when we were there. They said their hours were cut back because of the low turnout but they said management did that instead of laying people off.

Also there is a new dedicated BBS for Smuggs that started this week: http://www.smuggsbbs.com