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Diamond Resorts raises maintenance fees again!

I don't understand how they could have converted you to points, since that requires joining "The Club," for which there is a fee, plus membership dues every year that are separate from your maintenance fees. Back in the 90s, when it was still Sunterra, I paid $2000 to belong to the Club and convert to points. Seemed like a good idea to be able to split weeks when I wanted to, although I have never done that. The annual dues were $139. Since DRI took over, the dues have gone up. They are now at almost $300 a year! When I thought of quitting the club and going back to weeks, I was told that I would only be able to use my weeks at the home resort, as they would no longer pay my Interval International membership. In order to exchange, I would need to separately join Interval International. So I kept my club membership. However, since the dues are now so high for The Club, I may look into doing that. Does anyone know what the cost of Interval membership is?

Avatar for annetter60 annetter60

1 year ago
Jan 05, 2013

The exchange companies typically range from $99-$149 per year for membership. The exchanges are typically $79-$149. From what I have seen.

Avatar for davidl712 davidl712

1 year ago
Jan 05, 2013

Thanks. Even though The Club pays my Interval membership, I still have to pay the exchange fees if the resort is not a DRI resort. So it may be cheaper to quit the club and just join Interval or RCI on my own.

Avatar for annetter60 annetter60

1 year ago
Jan 06, 2013

just an observation on how DRI "improves" their new investments: I was passing through Sedona the other day and stopped at Los Abrigados to take a leak. The bathroom in the lobby was about on par with what you would expect in a truck stop. Dimly lit. Rolls of paper towels lying on the wash basin. An open receptacle full of used paper towels.

Avatar for davidk689 davidk689

1 year ago
Jan 06, 2013

We own deeded weeks at a Diamond resort, and have never converted to points. Of course they want us to pay lots more $$ to convert to points, but why? There's nothing they're offering that's worth the cost, and we like owning an actual deeded week.

We can't belong to the Diamond club, but that's really a blessing, since we don't need to pay their $299 club fee. Instead, we can exchange our weeks via either RCI or Interval, and that's working quite nicely.

Avatar for deannak47 deannak47

1 year ago
Jan 11, 2013

This is more than distressing to hear the property degradation since I plan to visit Los Abrigados 1st time since my forced conversion to DR. First, my fees more than doubled for my ILX Sedona Vac Week - only good at LA or traded in RCO. My current fee for 1 BR is $880 and was less than $440. RCI rents this as extra week for $450/wk all year long and tons there. I also own an ILX Premier Vacation Club Platinum which is now also more than doubled at over $2000 managed by DR and was forced on points (NEVER SIGNED ANYTHING) and we do not have access to all DR properties and no other DR perks. I'd planned to keep the PVC but I can't afford both. There are tons on Ebay for $1 sale and there are about $1500 in closing costs I would pay. Donations for a Cause organization will not tough any of these properties. I talked to DR to give back but they said no program to take these back and if I default on my fees my credit is affected. The PVC fee started at about $600 when I bought the property for $30,000. I'm going to retire and must cut my living costs so I probably have to take the credit score hit. I have always had stellar credit scores.

Avatar for maryannh62 maryannh62

1 year ago
Jan 18, 2013

How can we get a real class action suit on this because the former ILX owners...at more than 100% increase since take over...is unfair and I was forced on points for one property. I don't care if the take it back but they won't..they want me to pay up far beyond what is reasonable.

Avatar for maryannh62 maryannh62

1 year ago
Jan 18, 2013

what do you mean "join another company"?.. I got dumped in DRI when they bought ILX and my fees for my 2 units are $3K! One is a week floating and the other is points forced into. I will gladly give one back but they won't take, Such a shame. The San Carlos Beach Club was so beautiful under ILX, I bought one of the 1st units in the new building ILX built and being a former home owner in San Carlos, MX but moved cross country I loved going there and still want to but the cost for my 1 BR Los Abrigados-only property will probably force me to eventually renig on both.

Avatar for maryannh62 maryannh62

1 year ago
Jan 18, 2013

There is something wrong with these posts that people say they were forced to go into the points system. If you own s deeded week, you cannot be forced into going into DRI's points system. Have you signed paperwork to that effect? You would have had to, and only if you wanted to.

Now DRI will want you to convert to their points system, but you will not have to do so no matter what any salesperson says. If you want more flexibility then join, if you are happy with your ownership as is then don't.

DRI is not a perfect system, but it's not bad either. The maintenance fees do keep growing and that disturbs me. However, I have watched DRI fix up property after property. I forsee that happening with the ILX properties. They need work.

Avatar for charless345 charless345

1 year ago
Jan 20, 2013

We were not asked. We were "notified" the ILX PVC Platinum week would now be points. We were not asked join a club. We were told we could have use of 10 ILX + approx. 26 other properties & I was just sent a list of the DRI properties or trade through I.I. only and we had to pay I.I. annual club fee. The Sedona Vac Club week stayed weeks only good at Los Abrigados or tradeable through an exchange company of our choice that we joined. My guess is the conversion aggreement was in the fine print of legal correspondance we received (no response = concurrence with the change) or not sent at all asking if we want to convert to points. I only hope they fix the properties enough so they will be marketable again so I can sell the Sedona at least. Not even charitable orgs are accepting these as Gifts - there is too much liability associated and no value now.

charless345 wrote:
There is something wrong with these posts that people say they were forced to go into the points system. If you own s deeded week, you cannot be forced into going into DRI's points system. Have you signed paperwork to that effect? You would have had to, and only if you wanted to.

Now DRI will want you to convert to their points system, but you will not have to do so no matter what any salesperson says. If you want more flexibility then join, if you are happy with your ownership as is then don't.

DRI is not a perfect system, but it's not bad either. The maintenance fees do keep growing and that disturbs me. However, I have watched DRI fix up property after property. I forsee that happening with the ILX properties. They need work.

Avatar for maryannh62 maryannh62

1 year ago
Jan 20, 2013

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Last edit by mll on Jan 20, 2013 03:59 PM.

Avatar for mll mll

1 year ago
Jan 20, 2013

Very well stated deannak47, I couldn't agree more.

They get very upset when we won't convert to points but why would we pay more money to give up our deed and to still only have the equivalent of 1 week usage time unless we waited until 60 days (or something like that) out to use discounted points. It's a complete rip off. I would never recommend anyone to give up their deed.

Avatar for mll mll

1 year ago
Jan 20, 2013

maryannh62 wrote:
We were not asked. We were "notified" the ILX PVC Platinum week would now be points. We were not asked join a club. We were told we could have use of 10 ILX + approx. 26 other properties & I was just sent a list of the DRI properties or trade through I.I. only and we had to pay I.I. annual club fee. The Sedona Vac Club week stayed weeks only good at Los Abrigados or tradeable through an exchange company of our choice that we joined. My guess is the conversion aggreement was in the fine print of legal correspondance we received (no response = concurrence with the change) or not sent at all asking if we want to convert to points. I only hope they fix the properties enough so they will be marketable again so I can sell the Sedona at least. Not even charitable orgs are accepting these as Gifts - there is too much liability associated and no value now.

charless345 wrote:
There is something wrong with these posts that people say they were forced to go into the points system. If you own s deeded week, you cannot be forced into going into DRI's points system. Have you signed paperwork to that effect? You would have had to, and only if you wanted to.

Now DRI will want you to convert to their points system, but you will not have to do so no matter what any salesperson says. If you want more flexibility then join, if you are happy with your ownership as is then don't.

DRI is not a perfect system, but it's not bad either. The maintenance fees do keep growing and that disturbs me. However, I have watched DRI fix up property after property. I forsee that happening with the ILX properties. They need work.

I don't believe you had a deeded week if they made you go to points. If you feel you did have a deeded week, I would find the original paperwork that you signed when you bought your timeshare and read it over to make sure your not being taken advantage of. As I am reading from others, in your group of ILX deeded owners, DRI salesmen are applying pressure for you to convert to points, but they cannot force you. If you are already in some sort of points or club type system, then they may have had to covnert your system to theirs.

Last edit by charless345 on Jan 21, 2013 01:55 PM.

Avatar for charless345 charless345

1 year ago
Jan 20, 2013

All I know is I am a ILX Premier Vacation Club (PVC) Platinum member. Week was floating. I'll have to dig out paperwork. We were NEVER contacted by a LIVE person from DRI. Only received letters.

Anyone else from ILX PVC can comment?

charless345 wrote:
maryannh62 wrote:
We were not asked. We were "notified" the ILX PVC Platinum week would now be points. We were not asked join a club. We were told we could have use of 10 ILX + approx. 26 other properties & I was just sent a list of the DRI properties or trade through I.I. only and we had to pay I.I. annual club fee. The Sedona Vac Club week stayed weeks only good at Los Abrigados or tradeable through an exchange company of our choice that we joined. My guess is the conversion aggreement was in the fine print of legal correspondance we received (no response = concurrence with the change) or not sent at all asking if we want to convert to points. I only hope they fix the properties enough so they will be marketable again so I can sell the Sedona at least. Not even charitable orgs are accepting these as Gifts - there is too much liability associated and no value now.

charless345 wrote:
There is something wrong with these posts that people say they were forced to go into the points system. If you own s deeded week, you cannot be forced into going into DRI's points system. Have you signed paperwork to that effect? You would have had to, and only if you wanted to.

Now DRI will want you to convert to their points system, but you will not have to do so no matter what any salesperson says. If you want more flexibility then join, if you are happy with your ownership as is then don't.

DRI is not a perfect system, but it's not bad either. The maintenance fees do keep growing and that disturbs me. However, I have watched DRI fix up property after property. I forsee that happening with the ILX properties. They need work.

I don't believe you had a deeded week if they made you go to points. If you feel you did have a deeded week, I would find the original paperwork that you signed when you bought your timeshare and read it over to make sure your not being taken advantage of. As I am reading from others, in your group of ILX deeded owners, DRI salesmen are applying pressure for you to convert to deeded weeks but they cannot force you. If you are already in some sort of points or club type system, then they may have had to covnert your system to theirs.

Avatar for maryannh62 maryannh62

1 year ago
Jan 21, 2013

Maryann:

Premier Vacation Club, as I remember it was one of those bogus "upgrades" that ILX tried to push on all Sedona Vacation Club owners. If I understood that offer correctly, you surrendered your deed in exchange for membership in PVC, which was supposed to offer some benefits above what SVC (deeded owners) were entitled to.

If you think you have a deed you can check this out on the Coconino County Assesor's website. If you have a one week annual Jerome unit it should show you as the owner of 1/8000th (or something like that) of the property at [whatever the address is] on Portal Lane in Sedona.

maryannh62 wrote:
All I know is I am a ILX Premier Vacation Club (PVC) Platinum member. Week was floating. I'll have to dig out paperwork. We were NEVER contacted by a LIVE person from DRI. Only received letters.

Anyone else from ILX PVC can comment?

charless345 wrote:
maryannh62 wrote:
We were not asked. We were "notified" the ILX PVC Platinum week would now be points. We were not asked join a club. We were told we could have use of 10 ILX + approx. 26 other properties & I was just sent a list of the DRI properties or trade through I.I. only and we had to pay I.I. annual club fee. The Sedona Vac Club week stayed weeks only good at Los Abrigados or tradeable through an exchange company of our choice that we joined. My guess is the conversion aggreement was in the fine print of legal correspondance we received (no response = concurrence with the change) or not sent at all asking if we want to convert to points. I only hope they fix the properties enough so they will be marketable again so I can sell the Sedona at least. Not even charitable orgs are accepting these as Gifts - there is too much liability associated and no value now.

charless345 wrote:
There is something wrong with these posts that people say they were forced to go into the points system. If you own s deeded week, you cannot be forced into going into DRI's points system. Have you signed paperwork to that effect? You would have had to, and only if you wanted to.

Now DRI will want you to convert to their points system, but you will not have to do so no matter what any salesperson says. If you want more flexibility then join, if you are happy with your ownership as is then don't.

DRI is not a perfect system, but it's not bad either. The maintenance fees do keep growing and that disturbs me. However, I have watched DRI fix up property after property. I forsee that happening with the ILX properties. They need work.

I don't believe you had a deeded week if they made you go to points. If you feel you did have a deeded week, I would find the original paperwork that you signed when you bought your timeshare and read it over to make sure your not being taken advantage of. As I am reading from others, in your group of ILX deeded owners, DRI salesmen are applying pressure for you to convert to deeded weeks but they cannot force you. If you are already in some sort of points or club type system, then they may have had to covnert your system to theirs.

Avatar for davidk689 davidk689

1 year ago
Jan 21, 2013

Davidk689,

If what you wrote is in fact true and a deed had to be given to upgrade to that PVC Platinum membership, then that is why maryann received points. She traded her deeded week for a club which is what DRI offers. She probably has all of the same benefits she had in the PVC system.

Avatar for charless345 charless345

1 year ago
Jan 22, 2013

Diamond Resorts raises maintenance fees again!

My maintenance fee went from $300 to $423 for the last 2 years. It was managed by ILX then DRI took over 2 years ago. I attended annual meeting held at Vasity of American Tucson Chapter yesterday. This is first time I attended meeting. I noticed that the maintenance fee they collected is not just used to pay for repair the building, it also used to pay for manager's pay and employee's pay. This is not right. The daily rent through the year is collected by DRI and employee's pay should have paid by the DRI. It should not pay by maintenance fee. Jin Su

Avatar for jins3 jins3

1 year ago
Oct 02, 2013

Diamond Resorts raises maintenance fees again!

jins3 wrote:
My maintenance fee went from $300 to $423 for the last 2 years. It was managed by ILX then DRI took over 2 years ago. I attended annual meeting held at Vasity of American Tucson Chapter yesterday. This is first time I attended meeting. I noticed that the maintenance fee they collected is not just used to pay for repair the building, it also used to pay for manager's pay and employee's pay. This is not right. The daily rent through the year is collected by DRI and employee's pay should have paid by the DRI. It should not pay by maintenance fee. Jin Su

So let me ask a question, who paid for the people that worked for ILX? You don't think your maintenance fees went toward those people?

Avatar for charless345 charless345

1 year ago
Oct 02, 2013

Diamond Resorts raises maintenance fees again!

I hope this doesn't represent a percentage because I hate to what my now $3000 maintenance fees between 2 properties will go to now! I've been afraid to go to the website and see until I gain composure...........

Avatar for maryannh62 maryannh62

1 year ago
Oct 02, 2013

Diamond Resorts raises maintenance fees again!

"Maintenance Fee" implies that the monies are used for the upkeep of the property. It is actually used in part for other operating expenses. This bothers me as well, whether it is DRI or some other timeshare company misleading the owners. My so-called maintenance fees have gone up 42 percent since DRI took over ILX and are twice those of my other comparable timeshare in Mexico. It is just one way for them to get more money. Is should be called an annual fee.

They are spending money on renovations at the property though.

charless345 wrote:
jins3 wrote:
My maintenance fee went from $300 to $423 for the last 2 years. It was managed by ILX then DRI took over 2 years ago. I attended annual meeting held at Vasity of American Tucson Chapter yesterday. This is first time I attended meeting. I noticed that the maintenance fee they collected is not just used to pay for repair the building, it also used to pay for manager's pay and employee's pay. This is not right. The daily rent through the year is collected by DRI and employee's pay should have paid by the DRI. It should not pay by maintenance fee. Jin Su

So let me ask a question, who paid for the people that worked for ILX? You don't think your maintenance fees went toward those people?

Avatar for robertr558 robertr558

1 year ago
Oct 02, 2013

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