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By ken1193

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ken1193 wrote:
...there is a very extensive historical and educational thread easily retrieved on the subject over on the Timeshare Users Group BBS (see http://www.tug2.net) then click on the "Timeshare Community Forums" button, then find the particular thread at issue in the "Buying, Selling & Renting" forum.

More specifically, the thread to which I refer commenced on February 25, 2009 and is entitled "Sell My Timeshare Now ---Timeshare Broker Services -- Be Warned!". There are 32 individual posts within the thread, collectively placed within a six month time period. The thread was initiated by an individual with the user name "Timeshare Guy", who openly professed to be (quoting verbatim) "a former SMTN insider". Illuminating, to say the least...

That TUG thread provides a lengthy and VERY detailed description, accounting and discussion, which also includes clear and specific naming of numerous "players". SMTN CEO Jason Tremblay contributed to that thread, as did several others involved in various aspects of the timeshare industry (including a few licensed brokers).

Anyone interested in a comprehensive history lesson regarding Sell My Timeshare Now or Timeshare Broker Services might well be VERY interested in reviewing the extensive information put forth and discussed in that detailed TUG BBS thread referenced above.

I suggest looking at the ENTIRE forest here folks, rather than just getting distracted by an ongoing flap over one particular tree. Find and read the above referenced TUG thread for a comprehensive and illuminating education on the practices of Sell My Timeshare Now.

Last edit by ken1193 on Jan 13, 2011 06:07 AM.

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7 years ago
Jan 13, 2011

By shelleyh51

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did anyone get any good result (I mean refund) with Sellmytimesharenow.com. I am filing a complain with BBB. LIke to know if it helps.

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7 years ago
Feb 07, 2011

By ken1193

Wake up and smell the coffee...

shelleyh51 wrote:
did anyone get any good result (I mean refund) with Sellmytimesharenow.com. I am filing a complain with BBB. LIke to know if it helps.
Have you even bothered to read ANY of the DOZENS of posts already existing in these RedWeek forums on this very topic? If not, you'd be well served by making some actual effort to do so. Knowledge does not just fall down from the sky and into your lap simply by gravity.

Complaining to the BBB is a complete waste of your time and energy. The BBB has absolutely no legal authority of any kind and no real "horsepower" whatsoever. The BBB cannot help you (or anyone else) in ANY way beyond giving a company a "low BBB rating" --- and scammers don't care one bit about "low BBB ratings". Only established, legitimate businesses even care at all about their BBB rating, which they might feel is reflective of the good business image they seek to project (and then proclaim to the world).

Either make the effort to prepare and file a detailed, specific, factual, formal complaint directly with the state Attorney General office, or don't even bother doing anything at all. Complaining to the BBB is just ineffective and completely useless "venting". Maybe you'll feel better, but it will NOT otherwise accomplish anything at all.

Last edit by ken1193 on Feb 08, 2011 08:36 AM.

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7 years ago
Feb 07, 2011

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7 years ago
Mar 03, 2011

By jasont87

Wake up and smell the coffee...

to the last poster.

Email me your ad number. If you have a legitimate complaint, I am happy to help you solve it. If a refund is appropriate, you will get a refund.

With respect to the BBB, we do care about our rating which is why we respond to any complaint brought to us.

Sadly, due to threads like this it is not uncommon for people to complain to the BBB prior to even contacting us.

As I've stated earlier in this thread, if you are an unhappy customer, email me directly. Tell me why. I will respond.

Jason Tremblay (jasontremblay@sellmytimesharenow.com) Founder & CEO SellMyTimeshareNOW

BTW, the Tug thread referenced above is a rant from a disgruntled employee that was terminated.

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7 years ago
Mar 07, 2011

By shelleyh51

Wake up and smell the coffee...

My AD #987168, AD #982420.

Sure, I am unhappy customer due to your salesman Adam Smith made all those promises on the phone without senting over any contract any disclosure about your cancel policy, and your customer service representative is NOT offer any help besides telling me: I am not qualify to get my money refund AND they are NOT reliable for what Salesman promised.

So now tell me as a CEO how much you are going to do?

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7 years ago
Mar 07, 2011

By jayjay

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I just recently read in a publication that upfront fee Timeshare Resale Companies and their fraudulent scams were the overwhelming majority of complaints to all BBBs.

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7 years ago
Mar 08, 2011

By jayjay

Wake up and smell the coffee...

shelleyh51 wrote:
My AD #987168, AD #982420.

Sure, I am unhappy customer due to your salesman Adam Smith made all those promises on the phone without senting over any contract any disclosure about your cancel policy, and your customer service representative is NOT offer any help besides telling me: I am not qualify to get my money refund AND they are NOT reliable for what Salesman promised.

So now tell me as a CEO how much you are going to do?

Shelly, if 'Sell My Timeshare Now' doesn't follow through with what they promised you, you REALLY need to file a complaint with the Florida Attorney General and The New Hampshire Attorney General (SMTN has offices in both of those states).

The Florida Attorney General is in the process of closing down fraudulent upfront fee resale companies and have even used Swat Teams in doing so.

Jason, you really should find another line of employment with all the complaints to the Florida Attorney General against your company as it's only a matter of time before you'll be shut down possibly with a Swat Team along with a respresentative of the Florida Attorney General's office.

I see you use ARDA as one of your logos on your site. ARDA does not condone upfront fee resale companies and they have even sent out warnings concerning such fradulent companies as yours .... you're PIRATING the ARDA logo.

Last edit by jayjay on Mar 08, 2011 08:58 AM.

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7 years ago
Mar 08, 2011

By jayjay

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Jason, take a look at this (copy and paste URL below):

http://www.redweek.com/forums/messages?thread_id=17283

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7 years ago
Mar 08, 2011

By jasont87

Wake up and smell the coffee...

jayjay wrote:
shelleyh51 wrote:
My AD #987168, AD #982420.

Sure, I am unhappy customer due to your salesman Adam Smith made all those promises on the phone without senting over any contract any disclosure about your cancel policy, and your customer service representative is NOT offer any help besides telling me: I am not qualify to get my money refund AND they are NOT reliable for what Salesman promised.

So now tell me as a CEO how much you are going to do?

Shelly, if 'Sell My Timeshare Now' doesn't follow through with what they promised you, you REALLY need to file a complaint with the Florida Attorney General and The New Hampshire Attorney General (SMTN has offices in both of those states).

The Florida Attorney General is in the process of closing down fraudulent upfront fee resale companies and have even used Swat Teams in doing so.

Jason, you really should find another line of employment with all the complaints to the Florida Attorney General against your company as it's only a matter of time before you'll be shut down possibly with a Swat Team along with a respresentative of the Florida Attorney General's office.

I see you use ARDA as one of your logos on your site. ARDA does not condone upfront fee resale companies and they have even sent out warnings concerning such fradulent companies as yours .... you're PIRATING the ARDA logo.

Jay Jay -

Here we go again.

1) My company is not under investigation by the Attorney General. We are a legitimate company.

2) I am not "pirating" the ARDA logo. We are members of ARDA in good standing. in fact, I was on the resale model act legislation task force and I am speaking on the resale panel at ARDA's annual convention in Orlando later this month. I doubt ARDA would have asked me to speak if I was a moment away from having swat teams at my door..

Jason

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7 years ago
Mar 08, 2011

By jasont87

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Hi,

I am going to research your file and contact you by tomorrow morning. Our records will show all correspondence with you. If there is a legitimate reason to issue a refund, we will do so.

Best Regards, Jason Tremblay

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7 years ago
Mar 08, 2011

By jasont87

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jayjay wrote:
Jason, take a look at this (copy and paste URL below):

http://www.redweek.com/forums/messages?thread_id=17283

I applaud all enforcement actions against fraudulent companies.

We have operated as one of the largest resale companies in the world out of Orlando, Florida for 7 years. Having transacted with over 120,000 timeshare buyers, sellers and renters we are not without a handful of complaints. That said, all complaints are answered and dealt with in a manner that is fair to the consumer.

We are one of the only companies not currently under investigation by the FL Attorney General's office. There are other companies in FL under investigation that will be exonerated and then several others that will likely be shut down due to fraudulent practices.

I not only applaud these enforcement actions, I am relieved by them as the "scammers" only make it harder on those that conduct business legitimately.

Jason

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7 years ago
Mar 08, 2011

By jayjay

Wake up and smell the coffee...

jasont87 wrote:
Jay Jay -

Here we go again.

1) My company is not under investigation by the Attorney General. We are a legitimate company.

2) I am not "pirating" the ARDA logo. We are members of ARDA in good standing. in fact, I was on the resale model act legislation task force and I am speaking on the resale panel at ARDA's annual convention in Orlando later this month. I doubt ARDA would have asked me to speak if I was a moment away from having swat teams at my door.. Jason

From ARDA's website .... ARDA does not condone upfront fee resale companies (yours), period:

Resale Advisory III: ARDA learned of a new scheme involving timeshare resales that not only preys upon consumers but falsely cites ARDA as a reference. ARDA does not contract with, become involved with, authorize, or endorse any company’s resales activities.

Resale Advisory IV: ARDA advises consumers of the most recent resale precautions.

Resale Advisory V: ARDA has become aware of a deceptive solicitation practice, commonly referred to as transfer or repurchase solicitations, being used by some unethical transfer companies aimed at timeshare owners.

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7 years ago
Mar 09, 2011

By jayjay

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jasont87 wrote:
jayjay wrote:
Jason, take a look at this (copy and paste URL below):

http://www.redweek.com/forums/messages?thread_id=17283

I applaud all enforcement actions against fraudulent companies.

We have operated as one of the largest resale companies in the world out of Orlando, Florida for 7 years. Having transacted with over 120,000 timeshare buyers, sellers and renters we are not without a handful of complaints. That said, all complaints are answered and dealt with in a manner that is fair to the consumer.

We are one of the only companies not currently under investigation by the FL Attorney General's office. There are other companies in FL under investigation that will be exonerated and then several others that will likely be shut down due to fraudulent practices.

I not only applaud these enforcement actions, I am relieved by them as the "scammers" only make it harder on those that conduct business legitimately.

Jason

Jason, let's see just how honest of a business man you are. I am going to ask you straight out if you charge a large upfront fee to list a timeshare for sale or rent in your system ????

Bottom line, if you charge any type of large upfront fee, then you're on the AG's list .... I don't know why you think you are above and beyond all other upfront fee scammers ..... are you in for a surprise.

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7 years ago
Mar 09, 2011

By jasont87

Wake up and smell the coffee...

jayjay wrote:
jasont87 wrote:
Jay Jay -

Here we go again.

1) My company is not under investigation by the Attorney General. We are a legitimate company.

2) I am not "pirating" the ARDA logo. We are members of ARDA in good standing. in fact, I was on the resale model act legislation task force and I am speaking on the resale panel at ARDA's annual convention in Orlando later this month. I doubt ARDA would have asked me to speak if I was a moment away from having swat teams at my door.. Jason

From ARDA's website .... ARDA does not condone upfront fee resale companies (yours), period:

Resale Advisory III: ARDA learned of a new scheme involving timeshare resales that not only preys upon consumers but falsely cites ARDA as a reference. ARDA does not contract with, become involved with, authorize, or endorse any company’s resales activities.

Resale Advisory IV: ARDA advises consumers of the most recent resale precautions.

Resale Advisory V: ARDA has become aware of a deceptive solicitation practice, commonly referred to as transfer or repurchase solicitations, being used by some unethical transfer companies aimed at timeshare owners.

Jay Jay,

I am a member in good standing of ARDA. I have never suggested that they "endorse" my company. They do not "endorse" ANY company. I am however using the ARDA member logo with permission like any other ARDA member.

Furthermore, I frequently speak at ARDA conventions (including later this month) on the subject of resale and internet marketing and I served on the ARDA resale legislative task force that authored the model resale act that was recently adopted by the board at ARDA's Fall conference this past October.

A simple phone call to ARDA would allow you to verify this. Once again it is not me making false claims. It is you.

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7 years ago
Mar 09, 2011

By jasont87

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jayjay wrote:
jasont87 wrote:
jayjay wrote:
Jason, take a look at this (copy and paste URL below):

http://www.redweek.com/forums/messages?thread_id=17283

I applaud all enforcement actions against fraudulent companies.

We have operated as one of the largest resale companies in the world out of Orlando, Florida for 7 years. Having transacted with over 120,000 timeshare buyers, sellers and renters we are not without a handful of complaints. That said, all complaints are answered and dealt with in a manner that is fair to the consumer.

We are one of the only companies not currently under investigation by the FL Attorney General's office. There are other companies in FL under investigation that will be exonerated and then several others that will likely be shut down due to fraudulent practices.

I not only applaud these enforcement actions, I am relieved by them as the "scammers" only make it harder on those that conduct business legitimately.

Jason

Jason, let's see just how honest of a business man you are. I am going to ask you straight out if you charge a large upfront fee to list a timeshare for sale or rent in your system ????

Bottom line, if you charge any type of large upfront fee, then you're on the AG's list .... I don't know why you think you are above and beyond all other upfront fee scammers ..... are you in for a surprise.

Jay Jay,

It is not illegal or unethical so sell advertising. It is not true that any company doing so is on the list of companies the AG is investigating. Again, this is simply false.

To answer your question about fees (which has already been answered previously in this thread):

We have a For Sale by Owner option where a seller can purchase advertising on our website for between $199 and $599 depending upon whether it is for sale or rent etc. Our website currently generates over 12,000 offers to purchase and rent timeshares every month.

We also have a brokerage company called Timeshare Broker Services. When we take a broker listing we typically charge 15% or up to $2,000 upon the successful sale. It costs more than buying an ad but we don't get paid until closing.

The reason I am "above and beyond" as you say, is because we sell timeshares. A lot of them... and we can prove it.

Jason

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7 years ago
Mar 09, 2011

By shelleyh51

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Jason,

I hope you keep your words and back to me tomorrow Thursday morning.

Please stop ask your floor manager Kevin or supervisor Tony to call me. I like to SEE WHAT YOU going to do.

Any common sense, if I just make a listing, I have tons of website to list for free, I don't need pay money. I paid becuase your salesman promised HE GURANTEE to rent oout for me because your company is the best of... top of ... whatever as your said here.

Refund my money, and please don't use word "Legitimate" here again and again.

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7 years ago
Mar 09, 2011

By jayjay

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jasont87 wrote:
We are one of the only companies not currently under investigation by the FL Attorney General's office. There are other companies in FL under investigation that will be exonerated and then several others that will likely be shut down due to fraudulent practices.

Yeah Right ! I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. If you charge any type of large upfront fee for listing a timeshare in you system, then you're a scammer like the rest of the scammers out there .... you are NO DIFFERENT.

Quote:
Our website currently generates over 12,000 offers to purchase and rent timeshares every month.

Yeah right, people are buying timeshares from you left and right when they can get the same thing on Ebay, Redweek's or Tug's Bargain Basement for free or $1. You are really too funny .... nobody is buying timeshares unless they are given to them.

Again, you are living under a rock if you don't realize that timesharing, as we knew it pre-2006, has come and gone .... you really should be looking for another job before the AG comes crashing down your door with a swat team.

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7 years ago
Mar 10, 2011

By jayjay

Wake up and smell the coffee...

shelleyh51 wrote:
Any common sense, if I just make a listing, I have tons of website to list for free, I don't need pay money. I paid becuase your salesman promised HE GURANTEE to rent oout for me because your company is the best of... top of ... whatever as your said here.

Lies, lies and more lies from Sell My Timeshare Now .... you see, Jason, the lies that you and your salespeople tell prospective clients (ie: shelleyh51) is the MAIN REASON THE AG WILL BE COMING AFTER YOU. That lie and this one, "we have a buyer that wants to buy your timeshare but we'll need to charge you a large upfront fee to get the ball rolling" when in reality no buyer exists just like no renter exists for shelleyh51.

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7 years ago
Mar 10, 2011

By jayjay

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Read Jason Tremblay's spiel below:

(NO MORE UNBELIEVABLE THAN YOUR UPFRONT FEE RESALE SCAM COMPANY .... YOU'RE BOTH SHYSTERS AND LIARS .... why did one of your salesmen GUARANTEE the rental of shelleyh51's timeshare (FOR A LARGE UPFRONT FEE) when you KNOW there's NO GUARANTEE that any TIMESHARE CAN BE RENTED OR SOLD).

Monday, January 26, 2009 Timeshare Owners Beware! Author: Jason Tremblay

Orlando’s Channel 9 TV has been on the trail of a Nevada-based company using some interesting tactics to attract timeshare sellers. According to reporter Todd Ulrich, the timeshare company, Apex Professionals, sends post cards to timeshare owners leading them to believe the company wants to buy their timeshare and inviting them to a meeting to learn more. The post cards say, “Now making immediate offers to timeshare owners who want to sell.”

After a seminar held in an Orlando hotel, (which Action 9 investigators sat in on) the details of the meetings were shared with timeshare industry expert Lisa Ann Schreier. Here’s Ms. Schreier’s take: “These people (Apex Professionals) wanted 35 hundred dollars and your deed which is really unconscionable as far as I’m concerned.”

That’s right, those “immediate offers” being made to timeshare owners turned out to be an offer for the timeshare owner to pay Apex $3500, and then deed their timeshare over to Apex.

Unbelievable, isn’t it?

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7 years ago
Mar 10, 2011

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