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I agree with you. It looks like Marty needed to delete it..... On another T/S site I volunteer for, the owners son refused an advertisement from a specific company. You should have seen the language a rep posted in return for the prefer not to use your company. It was unbelievable. I can't believe these brainless nitwits can run business like that. I wanted to post the reply all over the place. But they said no. And maybe I'm a bit jealous. I saw a site showing the life one of these other than upfront fee companies live ( It was a PCC). The two owners were featured in a layout for a magazine....posted on the internet, and bragged how they were making a fortune on other peoples misfortune. When site was linked from the T/S help sites, the layout quickly disappeared. Glad she deleted it, really. I don't return to sites where they need to make a point via language like that. Avoids the well thought out reply....gotta go...yell at my wife..!!! Nothins ever right around here :)