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TM178- Report that sales rep for mis-information right now! We can not let Marriott sales reps that are so desperate for a sale to use whatever scare tactic they can come up with to get a sale. Here is the reality. I have a pdf of the points chart book that outlines every resort, season, size, and day cost in points. The majority of the people under premiere (6500) who would pay the 20% points premium wouldn't have enough points to make the reservation anyway. (Unless they bank and borrow and in essence give up 3 years worth of vacations for just one.) You were right in saying that those weeks were expensive and in turn cost a lot of points to get it. Now as for the sales rep saying that Marriott can reserve 50% of the rooms for point owners is just plain malicious lies. Marriott can not take inventory away from the owner of the home resort in which he hold a deed and title to that season. I agree that they don't give you a fixed week every year unless that is what you purchased (ski resorts did sell platinum plus/fixed week times for this purpose) but the only inventory that Trust points owners access is the unsold inventory. The inventory that legacy owners never had access to..not even through exchanges. The Trust owners are allowed to exchange with other non-marriott owners through Interval and even with other marriott owners through the Marriott exchange. In order for that to happen though, the Marriott owner first elects points for his week and then exchanges points with other legacy owners who elected points for their week. But in no way can Trust point owners take away inventory that is already sold to someone at any resort, especially at the home resort. To be even more sure that the sales rep was lying about the separation of the different inventory pools and which points access which pools, simple look into the points book (or the book they gave you when you purchased...it doesn't have the points listed, but will have the two icons by the resort name) Look for the little box that has an E in it and some of them have two boxes that say E and T. There are two buckets of inventory and no sales person can argue that Marriott wants to make clear that the new program is not taking away the inventory we have (access to other owner's weeks through exchange) But also that we can't take away what they have (all unsold property that was put in the trust). The only way a Trust owner can get to your resort during a peak season ski time is if it was so expensive in the legacy world that no one bought it and by default was put into the Trust. Again, legacy owners did not have access to that unsold week. It was rented out by Marriott and probably at a very handsome profit. And when the sales person tried to make you feel that you needed to buy more just to have the same 7 days at your home resort, shame on him. Points were not created to be used at your home resort (unless you go during a lower season, in which case it would net you points left over after your week stay) But the points assigned for our weeks isn't the same as the required amount of staying during our season. This is simple...Because we don't need points to go back to our home resort during out season. The observation is irrelevant and to get upset over something the doesn't affect us seems unproductive. In example (said this before on this thread) You would not take your week, convert them to Marriott Reward Points, and then take those points (which won't give you 7 days at the resort anyway, so you'd have to do two years of conversions) and book your home resort with them. So that means, you would not take your Mountain Side week, turn them into Destination Exchange Points, (which won't give you a week) and book your home resort. The solution is: Just book your home resort using your week. Who cares if it's enough to go back in your season??!! You use points to go to other resorts to have longer/shorter stays, check in day flexibility...etc. I bet your Mountain Side Platinum week gives you enough exchange points to stay at Harbor Point in Hilton Head for at least 5 weeks during low season and 2-3 full weeks during peak season (all in 2 bedroom units, since that is all that place has) Another way to verify this information is to call 1-888-MVCI-VOA and just ask if there is availability for election points and follow up the question with, what about Trust points...and listen to what they say. Do a little bit of research, verification of what the sales person tells you. Think a little logically. Do you really think, based on who Marriott is..that they decided to just wake up and create a horrible system with ideas of success and to anger all of their legacy owners? Do you think they would jeopardize their reputation just to make a few bucks? And if you really do believe that they would, then you probably shouldn't have bought with them to begin with. You could have bought at another company in Park City. Like Westgate (look them up, they are horrible). But you didn't. You chose Marriott for a reason and I hope you can have a little faith in that reason and the Company over some shumck sales person obviously just trying to get a sale. There are two buckets. Marriott makes it clear as day in their points books and enrollment book they give when you make a purchase. Look for those icons. Then rest assured. Then figure out if you want access to the Trust bucket. Then decide whether to buy Trust points or not. And yes...All future properties will be in the Trust. They are not selling Legacy weeks anymore so how can any wind up as Exchange points originating from a Legacy week? Therefore only Trust owners will have access to the future properties since all future properties are being put into the trust. The only way an Enrolled owner can get into the future property is by way of EXCHANGE. A Trust owner has to give up using a Marriott Trust resort Inventory (availability is only made by not using ANY Trust inventory at ANY resort) such as electing for a cruise or epic trip. Once the availability in the Trust is made, then a Legacy owner will be able to Exchange into it. Please find the truth so that you will also find peace. Then please change your comment, I hate that the sales people are spreading their lies through owners who don't know they are lies and are just trying to clarity to other owner, trying to help us all out. In the end, it is like a cancer and we are helping it grow. I don't want other owners to be affected by this and the misinformation continue to spread.