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tulipblossom and all other fellow defrauded TMC VICTIMS, fraud is not ALLEGED in eichner's case; IT'S FACT. i believe that was discovered and proven well beyond a reasonable doubt, to wit: schneiderman sent his undercover agents to eichner's sales presentations. they recorded lies, scams and fraudulent manipulations during the presentations.....that indeed is not ALLEGED, IT'S FACT, AND IT'S A CRIME, IN ADDITION TO U.S. MAIL FRAUD, OF EICHNER SENDING BROCHURES TO COAX PROSPECTIVE BUYERS TO HIS FRAUDULENT, LIE-INFESTED PRESENTATIONS... (A FEDERAL CRIME). BOTH ISSUES SHOULD BE TRIED IN CRIMINAL COURT. YES, A NEW CASE SHOULD BE OPENED IMMEDIATELY BY THE NYS ATTORNEY GENERAL CURRENTLY IN CHARGE (WHOEVER THAT PERSON MAY BE). our representatives, including the governor and nyc mayor and consumer advocates, should be apprised of this current miscarriage of justice and come forward and do their respective jobs in our behalf. eichner's crimes were committed in NEW YORK STATE, so one not need be a resident to reap realistic trial court's benefits. all of us deserve substantial financial compensation that would most likely be attached to eichner and company's criminal conviction. keep in mind, we never heard from ANY OF our representatives (senators, congressmen, consumer advocates, THE GOVERNOR, THE NYC MAYOR) some of whom MUST HAVE become aware of OUR ISSUES.......EICHNER AND THE MANHATTAN CLUB. it was left to an inept ATTORNEY GENERAL who had his mind on other issues he considered more important than ours............which involved, probably 18,000 consumers....US. BUT HE "WON" (JOKE INTENDED) THE CASE. [Q=tulipblossom] That is correct - the only way the settlement could be re visited would be if fraud were alleged and proven ( ie if Eichner lied under oath about certain matters) or if the terms of the settlement were not carried out by either party to the agreement. There's some speculation now that Eicher has not removed himself from the operations of the Manhattan Club and we are certainly due an explanation as to why that $6,000,000 "management fee" continues to show up in our budget. This is something that the new attorney general's office should be questioned about.[/Q]