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Re: Need for escrow (by Beck):

karik27 wrote:

...Are closing companies capable of discovering tax liens? I came across 2 of those this week while doing a couple of deeds for a client... In Hawaii, however, much of our business is from attorneys in the states who don't want to tackle Hawaii property transfers because of our multiple recording systems. ...

It bothers me when people call me a shill and so I have refrained from calling you one, Karik. It has taken a while, but I think you've finally admitted you own or work for a Title and Escrow company.

Rather than hide behind the veil appearing to be a timeshare owner, please admit when you are arguing in support of the services your company provides. That way people will more likely believe you are honest. As it is, your continued insistance that only a title company is capable of doing things like identifying tax liens is not only false - but suspect as well.

I've only had Stuart Title and Fidelity First Title (not Fidelity Title) as title companies to close my timeshares. Stuart title has also closed a few loans on houses for me. So far, 100% of the Title companies which have closed timeshares have done a far poorer job than the vast majority of timeshare closing companies. They don't understand the timeshare environment, don't understand the transfer process, and as I said before they use so many waivers and indemnities I doubt the work they do has any repercusions if they did it incorrectly. I'd like to think the Title companies would stand by their work. If they do, they shouldn't use so many legal docs to protect themselves if they don't.

I'm curious though, Karik. what two timeshare resorts were the subject of the two tax liens you discovered? I've owned 10 different timeshare organizations and all tax bills have been billed from the timeshare resort/company. Only in the case of Wyndham Ocean Walk is the tax bill not integrated in some way with the maintenance bill (some show taxes separate on the same bill). In all cases a timeshare closing company verifying the tax/maint with the resort thru the use of an estoppel will know. The only other case of a tax lein is if the resort wasn't paying the taxes it collected.