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Original Message:

More questions come to mind here... (by Dr. K.):

I seem to have missed a few posts.

jayjay wrote:
A Quit Claim deed will not permit avoidance of past due bills. A Quit Claim deed must have a grantor and a grantee .... you can't just make up a Quit Claim deed unless another party is willing to take ownership.
Correct on sentence one.

A quit Claim Deed has a Grantor and Grantee named on the deed. However, the grantor can file one without the acceptance of the grantee. This is why they can be challenged later and dismissed.

jayjay wrote:
. . . a scam and you are holding all other owners of the resort hostage by forcing them to take up the slack of the non-paying holders of deeds .... this is not fair to owners that do pay their maintenance fees.

Welcome to reality. I guess it depends on which side of the "Forever" billing process you are on as to how you view it. A scam is illegal. We are fully legal. Because you don't like it doesn't make it illegal or a scam. We are simply taking the position of an owner not willing to continue paying a ransom. We accept the full recourse of the law. What we do is use the law against the resort (OA) or however anyone wants to name the bill issuing entity.

As to your next post, it essentially covers the elementary steps of the process. I would suggest anyone wanting to actually find the timing of the process call and talk to an actual escrow company that handles lots of timeshare deed transfers before assuming it is a simple and fast process. We don't do it, but we usually find it takes 45 to 90 days or more from the start waiting for any title company to do it correctly because part of that process is awaiting everyone's responses, including the resort.

carvana wrote:
in reality it is a group of people who own a small real estate interest in a Timeshare and who collectively have elected a group of directors (owners association) to hire a company (e.g., VCR) to manage the Timeshare.
Remember my comment about corporations and individuals being the same under the law? It applies to OAs as well. Whether a huge publicly traded corporation or a small OA or an individual they are all essentially the same under the law.

carvana wrote:
The OA may also be delaying the foreclosure in an effort to determine who the real owner is.
What? All they have to do is check the deed to find the current owner. If it's a corporation the next step is to check with the state of incorporation to find individuals NOT hiding behind some corporate veil.

carvana wrote:
. . . to prevent fraud or wrongful acts done in the name of the corporation.
I think I've given enough response to the legality in answer to your assertions and questions. Why do you continue to question the legality of what has been shown to be clearly lawful?

As fun as this discussion is and as much as I welcome the opportunity you've given me to proclaim the legality, efficiency, and efficacy of what we do for timeshare owners feeling the boot on their necks, I will ask you to get on to another complaint that hasn't been covered already. If you can show what we do is illegal or doesn't work, by all means please do. Other than beating a dead horse, please bring some new ideas to this discussion or leave it well enough alone.