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Original Message:

Re: point rental liquidators (by John M.):

My attorney has said there are two ways to attack this.

1st way is called "Huff and Puff". This means that the lawyer will send official demand letters to all persons involved. He said the chances of success may be 1 in 20. Cost: $1000.00 fixed fee. Now that we cannot find an address for EPS, there is no place to send the demand letters. R&R will claim that they were just the processor, and VSI will claim that they collected $199.00 for the VSI membership. It is not their fault that the Ottawa "chin-beard" gang lied to us and them.

2nd way is to file lawsuits. This could be small claims or some civil action. Your chances of winning a judgment are better than the 1st way, but there is no guarentee that you will ever collect any judgment that may be handed down. Cost: $5000.00 plus expenses of $500-$800.

Then you may have to try to garnish wages, but you probably will not be able to find any actual wage payer to do that with. And it will cost you additional money to do this or hire a debt collection agency.