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Re: Manhattan Club Lawsuit (by Chris V.):
sallyw109 wrote:mazarati wrote:The 9 month rule is not the problem here. It's other things. The 9 month rule is important as those needing a full week must have that opportunity or there would be nothing but fragmented weeks available. Every timeshare on earth that allows less than one week stays has the 9 month rule because it's absolutely necessary.The problem is that almost all timeshares who offer less than one week reservations are flawed. Timeshare only really works well for those who want whole weeks AND can plan ahead. If you ask timeshare to give you 3 nighters and on short notice, you will be very disappointed (as you are). Most timeshare experts in places such as Red Week or TUG know this. It's not what people want to hear but unfortunately it's reality.
What we really need at the MC is control of the board. If we get that, we can address the abnormally high management fees etc and get our annual maintenance fees back down below $2000 per year. Maybe even down to $1800 or so. We need to have control like other projects. Eichners built in a clause saying as long as he owns one single MC ownership, he has board control. Normally after about 60% sellout, owners gain control. This is the problem.
I disagree. For many of us, the 9-month rule IS the problem here. It was not a rule when I purchased my timeshare in 2005. For the first few years I could book a room with just 2 or 3 months notice. Then it got longer, and now it's 9 to 12 months (you are not guaranteed to get your choice with only 9 month's notice). It is NOT standard everywhere and should NOT be affected by split weeks. I have a number of friends with timeshares other than TMC and they all said they've never heard of booking 9 months in advance. Most of us don't have the luxury of knowing with certainty when we can plan a getaway that far in advance. So as far as I'm concerned, the 9-month rule IS the problem here, and the reason TMC shareholders are complaining that they never get to use their units.
i agree w ur disagreement of the 9 mo "rule".....it's total bull****. it may be true of some timeshare presentations which were probably up front about it during their sales presentations. however when we purchased 2 weeks about 10 years we were told that this FRAUD-RIDDEN TIMESHARE would be our "new york city home away from home', NO MENTION OF ANY 9 MONTH RULE FOR RESERVATIONS. in addition, we were never told about the rise of percentage rates of our inflated, intolerable and exorbitant maintenance fees which are forcing many owners to literally give away their shares rather than continue to be squeezed for more and more of these obscene fees. can we really even imagine simply giving away our hefty investment in the SCAMMING MANHATTAN CLUB? is that the only FAIR alternative that we're left with? NO, NO, NO. WE NEED TO COME TO GRIPS WITH THIS UNBEARABLE AND NONSENSICAL SITUATION AND TAKE THE PROVERBIAL BULLS (EICHNER AND GANG) BY THE HORNS AND HAVE THEM ALL TOSSED OUT OF POWER. WRITE TO THE OTHER BOARD OF DIRECTOR MEMBERS (THEIR EMAILS ARE LISTED ON THE MANHATTAN CLUB'S WEBSITE.) LET THEM WORK FOR US.......WHICH IS THEIR PRIMARY FUNCTION, NOT TO BE PAWNS OF EICHNER AND BOW TO HIS COMMANDS. ALSO KEEP SENDING THE NEW YORK STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL, ERIC SCHNEIDERMAN, OUR COMPLAINTS AGAINST THE MANHATTAN CLUB FOR HIM TO PRESENT AS PART OF HIS CASE AGAINST THE CLUB IN COURT. we should not be giving THE MANHATTAN CLUB. any leeway as mazarati has given.........almost forgiving THE MANHATTAN for the so-called nine month rule is accepting their fraud. forgiving is somewhat merciful; THE CURRENT BOARD MEMBERS, NAMELY EICHNER AND GANG MERIT NO MERCY OR FORGIVENESS. LET'S GET OFF THAT FORGIVENESS TACK AND ON TO GETTING WHAT WE OWNERS DESERVE.......WHAT WE PAID FOR AND ARE CONTINUING TO PAY FOR THROUGH OUR MAINTENANCE FEES, AND LOSS OF RESERVATION TIME BECAUSE OF THE "9 MONTH RULE" AND THE FACT THAT EICHNER IS RENTING OUT MANHATTAN CLUB ACCOMMODATIONS THROUGH booking.com, orbit.com and other similar websites.........hey guys he's double dipping and using our funds/money/fees to do so. FORGIVENESS? I THINK NOT.