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Re: Manhattan Club Lawsuit (by Dks):

Very unfortunately, this is the way our "justice" system seems to work or not work. It's all about convoluted contracts, delays and legal wrangling. More unfortunately, Mr. Schneiderman is doing all this on behalf of the State of NY, not the owners of the club. As far as what I have read and understand, he wants is to win and collect big fines for NY...and maybe have some flunky serve 6 months. At least Judge Rakower is on our side and has advised/promoted the idea that the owner's should be considered/included in any negotiations/settlement. Whether we will be or not, remains to be seen. If Schneiderman wins...then we as owners have more of a chance at a class action suit, but no guarantees that it would be successful and how long would that take? So far any such attempts have been thrown out of court.

chrisv126 wrote:

ohhh, yes,

TMC is cleverly disgusting and deceptive, but MAYBE just about within the bounds of legality (AND MAYBE NOT) BUT CERTAINLY NOT MORALITY. how schneiderman, who works for new york state and IS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AS ATTORNEY GENERAL, has permitted this case to drag on as long as it has is beyond my comprehension and reason. even non-residents of nys would reap the benefits of his victory in this case. schneiderman has proof positive, by his own undercover investigations, of the deceptive sales practices that the sales department presented at the direction of the TMC principal, ian bruce eichner, to the unwary purchasers. the exponentially and exorbitantly high maintenance fees per ownership week are public knowledge, well above (about 350%) most other timeshares. all of this incriminating evidence is laid out plainly for all to see. WHY THE VARIOUS DELAYS AND COURT DATE POSTPONEMENTS? WHEN DOES THIS WASTE OF TIME AND STATE MONEY STOP WITH THE CESSATION AND WINNING OF THIS APPARENTLY CRIMINAL CASE?

billj285 wrote:

Wow, do you think you have a REAL property there? It's a timeshare and not real property. You will never be able to sell it let alone give it away. Things you must tell a buyer... That the contract legally binds heirs, successors, and assigns to inherit all financial and legal obligations under contract. That timeshare developers and their management companies can add, delete, modify, terms, conditions, and usage rights without the owners’ consent…

Did the salesperson explain to you, the resort has; RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL which is often confused FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL? -GA- Well they do that on purpose. RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL means the Resort can legally reject any buyer, for any reason and the Resort will just deny the sale forcing you to keep it anyway.

..................this RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL and FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL is just confusing legalese and mumbo jumbo, and this language doesn't stop here. it would take brilliant attorneys totally familiar with the laws governing timeshares to translate this nonsense (to most of us) into everyday language that most of us understands.

does any of us here in this forum have any clue concerning these issues? if so, please share your knowledge with us defrauded and victimized purchasers of this "wonderful" (LOCATION ONLY, BY NO MEANS MANAGEMENT) timeshare. we all will have lost a great deal of money and value if this case isn't settled in a manner that will benefit us all. this should be apparent to all legal personnel, both prosecution and defence, and, overall, the court.

chris