Dec 29, 2009

I just contacted my resort to reserve a week that someone wants to rent from me on Redweek.com. I have a floating week and checked availability. The week desired was available. When the confirmation document arrived via email, it said at the top "Non-transferable." No mention of this was made on the phone with the reservations person, but it was printed on the confirmation document. Has anyone run into this before? Does this stop people from renting their units to others?


Julie B.
Dec 29, 2009

julie1985 wrote:
I just contacted my resort to reserve a week that someone wants to rent from me on Redweek.com. I have a floating week and checked availability. The week desired was available. When the confirmation document arrived via email, it said at the top "Non-transferable." No mention of this was made on the phone with the reservations person, but it was printed on the confirmation document. Has anyone run into this before? Does this stop people from renting their units to others?

Puzzling, to say the least...

Is this perhaps a RCI Points resort ownership? If so (...knowing RCI...) there may very well be a restriction on use of a reservation made under RCI Points.


KC
Dec 29, 2009

No; it isn't a "points" resort ownership. I don't know if the "non-transferable" term refers to the fact that I can't take it to a sister resort (non-transferable between resorts), or if I can't give the week to a friend or relative for a present, or I can't rent it to someone... Wondered if others had this same notation on a reservation and what it meant for them!


Julie B.
Dec 30, 2009

julie1985 wrote:
No; it isn't a "points" resort ownership. I don't know if the "non-transferable" term refers to the fact that I can't take it to a sister resort (non-transferable between resorts), or if I can't give the week to a friend or relative for a present, or I can't rent it to someone... Wondered if others had this same notation on a reservation and what it meant for them!

A week specifically reserved at one resort is NEVER usable at an entirely different resort at that time, so that's certainly not likely to be the intended meaning.

If you have a deeded non-Points "week" ownership at a single location facility, then you certainly have the legal right to use, or gift --- or rent out --- your specifically reserved week at that (non-RCI Points) facility however you may see fit (as long as your fees are paid up to date, of course). In the U.S., that is an inherent ownership right which cannot ever be trumped by ANY resort decree on ANY correspondence. Outside the U.S.A., however, all bets are off (particularly with some Mexican RTU's).

Maybe the resort intended to convey (but just poorly expressed) that no one other than the name reflected on the reservation confirmation will be permitted to check-in WITHOUT a new confirmation being issued in the name of the occupant (if that occupant is to be someone other than the owner who actually reserved the week). Have you called the RESORT directly to ask THEM for an explanation?


KC

Last edited by ken1193 on Dec 30, 2009 10:50 AM

Dec 30, 2009

julie1985 wrote:
I just contacted my resort to reserve a week that someone wants to rent from me on Redweek.com. I have a floating week and checked availability. The week desired was available. When the confirmation document arrived via email, it said at the top "Non-transferable." No mention of this was made on the phone with the reservations person, but it was printed on the confirmation document. Has anyone run into this before? Does this stop people from renting their units to others?

Was the confirmation in your name? If so, this may be the problem.

If you own the floating week and make the reservation, it's your right as the owner of that week to do with it what you wish .... perhaps you need to call the resort again and explain that you are renting the week to someone else and to put the confirmation in their name instead of yours .... this is perfectly legal.


R P.
Dec 30, 2009

I did call the resort and ask about the Non-transferable label at the top of the reservation confirmation. I asked if that meant I couldn't use it for another week, and he responded "no; it means the unit can't be used by anyone else." Expressing surprise, I said "you mean that I can't gift it to my son as a wedding present, for example?" And the reservations guy said that I couldn't do that (or anything else) without notifying the resort that I was granting access/use to another and gave the name of the person(s) who would occupy my unit. So, I feel comfortable proceeding with renting my floating week, and once it is fully paid for by the renter, I'll send the resort a note giving the name of the occupant(s). I wonder if this is a new scare tactic to get people to only rent through the resort rather than a place like Redweek.com... Any thoughts/experience?


Julie B.
Dec 31, 2009

julie1985 wrote:
I did call the resort and ask about the Non-transferable label at the top of the reservation confirmation. I asked if that meant I couldn't use it for another week, and he responded "no; it means the unit can't be used by anyone else." Expressing surprise, I said "you mean that I can't gift it to my son as a wedding present, for example?" And the reservations guy said that I couldn't do that (or anything else) without notifying the resort that I was granting access/use to another and gave the name of the person(s) who would occupy my unit. So, I feel comfortable proceeding with renting my floating week, and once it is fully paid for by the renter, I'll send the resort a note giving the name of the occupant(s). I wonder if this is a new scare tactic to get people to only rent through the resort rather than a place like Redweek.com... Any thoughts/experience?

The resort has given you a reasonable and credible explanation; it has nothing to do with a "scare tactic". What NO resort EVER wants to encounter is someone just showing up to check-in, reservation confirmation document in hand --- but with the name on the confirmation and the name of the person standing before them being entirely different --- and the resort having no idea why that is... NO resort wants to have to deal with any of that at busy check-in time.

Whenever I have rented out a week I own, I have simply sent a letter to the resort providing the full name and address of the renter(s) using my week (dollar amounts are none of the resort's business --- just the IDENTITY of the occupant(s). I also provide a copy of that same letter to the renter, along with a copy of the reservation confirmation (this is all AFTER non-refundable payment in full has been received, of course). I clearly advise the renter to call the resort a few weeks in advance of the use week to confirm FOR THEMSELVES that the reservation is now in THEIR name and to contact me IF (and only if) there is any problem. I further advise the renter that the resort (not me) will require presentation of a credit card at check-in (as security deposit measure only, shredded without charge after a no damage check-out) and that the name on the credit card MUST be the name of the renter. Finally, I clearly advise the renter, in writing, that there will be NO refunds in the event of a last minute cancellation on their part, so I advise the renter to consider purchasing travel insurance to protect themselves in the event they cannot travel due to some last minute situation.

Using the above measures, over the course of several decades I've never had a problem with a resort OR a renter; you might want to consider using these same measures. Then again, I own my weeks to use them (not to rent them out) so my "rentals" are relatively infrequent.

P.S. Personally, I refuse to rent to college students on Spring Break (or to ANYONE under the age of 25 at ANY time, for that matter) but that's just my personal policy (and my right). I've seen far too much unnecessary property damage over the years caused by thoughtless drunken college-age kids (...who are supposedly "young adults"...) to EVER assume that risk. Always remember that YOU as the owner are ultimately responsible for any damages to YOUR reserved unit / week. If incurred damages exceed the renter's credit card authorization amount, the resort is going to come after YOU (NOT the renter), no matter WHAT your rental agreement with that renter might say. In such a development, it will become YOUR responsibility to pay for the damages, and then YOUR responsibility (NOT the resort's) to attempt to recover any excessive damage costs from the renter. It's all doable, but it's much easier said than done, since you may have to take the renter to court (an unwelcome expenditure of your time, effort and money --- and also logistically difficult when several different states are involved).

Anyway, that's MY two (...or three) cents' worth. Good luck.


KC

Last edited by ken1193 on Jan 01, 2010 10:58 AM


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