Timeshare Companies

Omega Marketing Solutions any one had dealings with them?

Jun 12, 2008

ken1193 doreenc24

ken1193 wrote:
Knowing a truly special offer when he sees one, mike1536 excitedly states: >>"But wait, there's more. If you order now, we'll include a set of Ginsu Knives at NO extra cost. All you pay is an extra $9.95 for shipping and handling"<< ===============================================

Call NOW Mike! if you are one of the first ten callers, we will also throw in "The Pocket Fisherman" and a complimentary supply of "magic bait" too...

That's a great idea Ken. If I catch anything, I can finally use my BASS-O-MATIC. Have a great weekend


Mike N.
Jul 06, 2008

What if anything did you finally do with the timeshare that omega was SUPPOSE to sale. I was given their name from a broker and I didn't get a chance to read these emails before sending them $795.00!! This happened in April of this year....Did anybody get the 2 airline tickets that were promised by David Bell if the timeshare was not sold in 90 days? I can not believe this. I have been given the run around from customer service from day one. What can I do at this point? I am sure no refunds have been disbursed at this point. How do I go about getting the timeshare back if that is possible


Gaynita W.

Last edited by gaynitaw on Jul 06, 2008 07:35 PM

Jul 07, 2008

gaynitaw asks in part: >> What can I do at this point? I am sure no refunds have been disbursed at this point. How do I go about getting the timeshare back if that is possible? << =============================================

You don't really have to do anything at all to "get the timeshare back", since these parasites don't actually "have" it (in any ownership sense) in the first place. They have (...maybe) listed the timeshare for sale on an obscure, unknown and useless advertising site, but YOU still own the timeshare and YOU still have the right to sell it yourself. The "advertising and marketing fee" which you chose to voluntarily pay is long gone and you will never get it back, so try to look forward, not back. The parasites have done nothing with your timeshare --- and they never will. Their work is actually already done; they succeeded in collecting a (voluntarily paid) advertising fee from you. They couldn't care less whether or not you ever sell your timeshare, since they won't actually derive any further profit whether you sell or not (beyond the fee you already chose to pay them).

You now need to advertise and try sell your timeshare YOURSELF. This is your prerogative and your right, since YOU still own the timeshare every bit as much as you did before you sent money to these useless, thieving parasites. Search through the many RedWeek forum posts offering specific suggestions and various recommended low cost (sometimes free) sites to assist you in selling. Good luck.


KC

Last edited by ken1193 on Jul 07, 2008 05:10 AM

Jul 07, 2008

ken1193 wrote:
gaynitaw asks in part: >> What can I do at this point? I am sure no refunds have been disbursed at this point. How do I go about getting the timeshare back if that is possible?

As ken stated above, you still own your timeshare since you still have the original deed. The upfront fee company owns nothing but your $795 upfront fee .... a very expensive lesson learned.

Until ALL upfront fee companies are regulated by a federal agency, their scams will continue. They call themselves timeshare advertising or marketing companies and they are not legitimate real estate companies that are required to charge their fee after the sale. This is how they skirt the law.


R P.
Jul 07, 2008

Thanks to you both for your comments. I guess its no use to keep calling Omega at this point. Did you both end up selling your timeshares out right or do you recommend any other companies. The bad thing is I received Omega's information from a brokers office. Did you all receive the plane tickets. I am LOL while I am typing because I already know the answer


Gaynita W.
Jul 07, 2008

gaynitaw states /asks in relevant part: >>Thanks to you both for your comments. I guess its no use to keep calling Omega at this point. Did you both end up selling your timeshares out right or do you recommend any other companies.<< ==============================================

Personally, I have NEVER paid or used ANY company to sell the few timeshares which I have sold over the years. You can virtually always do a much better job all by yourself, simply by identifying a realistic, competitive price and advertising in all of the places you can easily find openly identified in a "search" and/or a review of RedWeek postings. With a total investment of less than $100 (and yes, some required time and effort preparing ads), you can reach virtually every potential buyer on Planet Earth. That said, if yours was a developer-direct purchase, you must prepare yourself for the reality that your timeshare (no matter what or where it might be) is likely worth no more than 25% (or even less) of the original developer price when next sold in the resale market. If it's located in one of the handful of grossly overbuilt locations in the U.S., where there is currently a glut of inventory, you will certainly also be competing with many other would-be sellers.

While all of these upfront fee parasites tell various fairy tales, I've actually never before heard of one claiming to offer "airline tickets". I certainly would not hold your breath waiting for those tickets to ever arrive. If you receive anything at all (highly unlikley, in my opinion), it's just going to be discount coupons or vouchers with a long list of restrictions, limitations and conditions in order to use them at all.

I don't even know what to say about any broker who would ever recommend "upfront fee" advertising thieves, since NONE of them ever successfully sell a timeshare. In your shoes, I would certainly contact this "broker" again and at least let him / her know that he/she recommended to you an entity with which NO ONE has ever had a successful experience --- NO ONE! I (and, I'm sure, many others) would certainly like to hear about the "broker" explanantion for making any such unhelpful recommendation in the first place. Whether or not you might also want to openly name and identify that broker here for the future benefit of others is, of course, entirely up to you.


KC

Last edited by ken1193 on Jul 07, 2008 12:52 PM

Jul 07, 2008

ken1193 wrote:
Personally, I have NEVER paid or used ANY company to sell the few timeshares which I have sold over the years. You can virtually always do a much better job all by yourself, simply by identifying a realistic, competitive price and advertising in all of the places you can easily find openly identified in a "search" and/or a review of RedWeek postings. With a total investment of less than $100 (and yes, some required time and effort preparing ads), you can reach virtually every potential buyer on Planet Earth. That said, if yours was a developer-direct purchase, you must prepare yourself for the reality that your timeshare (no matter what or where it might be) is likely worth no more than 25% (or even less) of the original developer price when next sold in the resale market. If it's located in one of the handful of grossly overbuilt locations in the U.S., where there is currently a glut of inventory, you will certainly also be competing with many other would-be sellers.

While all of these upfront fee parasites tell various fairy tales, I've actually never before heard of one claiming to offer "airline tickets". I certainly would not hold your breath waiting for those tickets to ever arrive. If you receive anything at all (highly unlikley, in my opinion), it's just going to be discount coupons or vouchers with a long list of restrictions, limitations and conditions in order to use them at all.

I don't even know what to say about any broker who would ever recommend "upfront fee" advertising thieves, since NONE of them ever successfully sell a timeshare. In your shoes, I would certainly contact this "broker" again and at least let him / her know that he/she recommended to you an entity with which NO ONE has ever had a successful experience --- NO ONE! I (and, I'm sure, many others) would certainly like to hear about the "broker" explanantion for making any such unhelpful recommendation in the first place. Whether or not you might also want to openly name and identify that broker here for the future benefit of others is, of course, entirely up to you.

Copy and email this forum to the socalled 'broker', and yes, you would be doing all a favor if you told us who this 'broker' is as they are unethical.

BTW, I sold 9 timeshares myself on internet sites such as Redweek, MyResortNetwork, Bidshares and Ebay.


R P.
Jul 14, 2008

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John M.

Last edited by jonathanc10 on Jul 14, 2008 12:08 AM

Jul 18, 2008

jayjay wrote:
ken1193 wrote:
Personally, I have NEVER paid or used ANY company to sell the few timeshares which I have sold over the years. You can virtually always do a much better job all by yourself, simply by identifying a realistic, competitive price and advertising in all of the places you can easily find openly identified in a "search" and/or a review of RedWeek postings. With a total investment of less than $100 (and yes, some required time and effort preparing ads), you can reach virtually every potential buyer on Planet Earth. That said, if yours was a developer-direct purchase, you must prepare yourself for the reality that your timeshare (no matter what or where it might be) is likely worth no more than 25% (or even less) of the original developer price when next sold in the resale market. If it's located in one of the handful of grossly overbuilt locations in the U.S., where there is currently a glut of inventory, you will certainly also be competing with many other would-be sellers.

While all of these upfront fee parasites tell various fairy tales, I've actually never before heard of one claiming to offer "airline tickets". I certainly would not hold your breath waiting for those tickets to ever arrive. If you receive anything at all (highly unlikley, in my opinion), it's just going to be discount coupons or vouchers with a long list of restrictions, limitations and conditions in order to use them at all.

I don't even know what to say about any broker who would ever recommend "upfront fee" advertising thieves, since NONE of them ever successfully sell a timeshare. In your shoes, I would certainly contact this "broker" again and at least let him / her know that he/she recommended to you an entity with which NO ONE has ever had a successful experience --- NO ONE! I (and, I'm sure, many others) would certainly like to hear about the "broker" explanantion for making any such unhelpful recommendation in the first place. Whether or not you might also want to openly name and identify that broker here for the future benefit of others is, of course, entirely up to you.

Copy and email this forum to the socalled 'broker', and yes, you would be doing all a favor if you told us who this 'broker' is as they are unethical.

BTW, I sold 9 timeshares myself on internet sites such as Redweek, MyResortNetwork, Bidshares and Ebay.

Well now I know that I am not alone, I also was a victim from these parasites from Omega Marketing Solutions, this David Bell sure did play a good scam on me , after getting my 595.00 and never again hearing from him again, after reading all of the above complaints from honest people against these idiots I cant believe they are still in business, I was just scammed back in May, but I have read complaints dating more than one year ago, it is really unbelievable that nobody can do anything against these guys, I mean we live in the USA, isn't there somebody out there that can put a stop to this, I will sure like to be part of any type of action legal off coarse against them, I am only glad that I did not pay there initial fee that started around 1100.00, if anybody has a legal act against these jerks, I will like to part of it, I cant believe the state of Florida allows these people to be acting as a business, but oh well, next time I will do my homework before giving my money away. I'm sure these poor people needed the money to support there drinking habits and make fun of the people they scammed today and yesterday. BEWARE OF THESE DOGS....


Luis L.
Jul 18, 2008

luisl13 wrote:
I have read complaints dating more than one year ago, it is really unbelievable that nobody can do anything against these guys, I mean we live in the USA, isn't there somebody out there that can put a stop to this?

They skirt the law by calling themsevles timeshare advertisers .... they are not actually real estate agents. Until upfront fee resale companies are federally regulated, then this practice will continue unabated inlcuding all the lies they tell prospective clients.


R P.
Jul 19, 2008

jayjay wrote:
luisl13 wrote:
I have read complaints dating more than one year ago, it is really unbelievable that nobody can do anything against these guys, I mean we live in the USA, isn't there somebody out there that can put a stop to this?

They skirt the law by calling themsevles timeshare advertisers .... they are not actually real estate agents. Until upfront fee resale companies are federally regulated, then this practice will continue unabated inlcuding all the lies they tell prospective clients.

====== No, they are not real estate agents and that is their explanation of why they charge up front for their expenses and profit. They say that BECAUSE they are not licensed real estate brokers they are by law not allowed (in Florida at least) to sell on commission as realtors do. Does anyone know if THIS is true? MD


Mary D.
Jul 20, 2008

adahiscout wrote:
No, they are not real estate agents and that is their explanation of why they charge up front for their expenses and profit. They say that BECAUSE they are not licensed real estate brokers they are by law not allowed (in Florida at least) to sell on commission as realtors do. Does anyone know if THIS is true? MD

They don't want a realtors license ... if they had one they couldn't ask for an upfront fee ... legitimate realtors take their fee AFTER the sell, not BEFORE. All they're after is that upfront fee and their mission is accomplished.


R P.
Sep 14, 2008

Omega contacted us and we never went to their website.

We notified our resort and they sent their lawyers after Omega just for the harassment and false claims they were making. Omega actually claimed that it was stipulated in our contract that we could only sell our unit through them. I highly recommend that those of you who have dealt with Omega contact your home resort and see if they will do the same for you. Most resorts are more than happy to go after scammers on behalf of their owners. They can't get your money back, but they can force them to stop the calls.

We never used them because we know better. Haven't heard a peep from them since.

I'm sure you'll all get a laugh out of this-> the agent that tried to scam us was named Mike. I laughed hysterically when I saw the "mike" on this forum that supposedly is a legitimate timeshare owner who had such a great experience.

Give it up Mike. Stop insulting our intelligence.


Jordyn M.

Last edited by jordynm on Sep 14, 2008 11:29 PM

Sep 15, 2008

jordynm wrote:
I'm sure you'll all get a laugh out of this-> the agent that tried to scam us was named Mike. I laughed hysterically when I saw the "mike" on this forum that supposedly is a legitimate timeshare owner who had such a great experience.

Give it up Mike. Stop insulting our intelligence.

Mike1536 here on Redweek's forums is/was not your agent Mike with Omega ... Redweek's mike1536 is a VERY knowledgable timeshare owner that offers that knowledge freely on this site. Mike is a VERY COMMON name (no offense mike1536 :o).


R P.

Last edited by jayjay on Sep 15, 2008 06:54 AM

Sep 15, 2008

jayjay wrote:
Mike1536 here on Redweek's forums is/was not your agent Mike with Omega ... Redweek's mike1536 is a VERY knowledgable timeshare owner that offers that knowledge freely on this site.
Thanks jayjay. I would hope he wasn't referring to me, but thanks for the clarification.
jayjay wrote:
Mike is a VERY COMMON name (no offense mike1536 :o).
No offense taken :)


Mike N.
Oct 01, 2008

We also had dealings with Omega. We wer stupid. But I would be willing to get involved in a class action/


Teri M.
Oct 01, 2008

The two airline tickets (yeah right) You have to pay 99.00 which is returned once you book but here is the catch you have to book a stay at one of their resorts at a price of 299.00 a night for 7 nights before you get the free tickets.


Teri M.
Oct 02, 2008

terim49 wrote:
We also had dealings with Omega. We wer stupid. But I would be willing to get involved in a class action/

Frankly, you would be very hard pressed to find ANY attorney anywhere who would touch this matter with even a very, very long stick.

People unwisely *CHOOSE* to *VOLUNTARILY* pay a company for timeshare advertising which is essentially worthless. What exactly would be the grounds or basis for a lawsuit?


KC

Last edited by ken1193 on Oct 02, 2008 06:56 PM

Oct 27, 2008

Be very careful with these folks. David Bell of Omega called us numerous times stating that they have "someone very motovated to purchase". My wife and I finally went for it and David rattled off all these forms required to do a timeshare sale, and that with his company it was easy, but we would have to pay $800.00. He had a special running for $620.00 and we gave them our Mastercard number. They then emailed our contract, which essentially stated that they would list our property for 365 days. There was nothing about helping to sell the property what so ever! Within hours of finding this message board and reading other horror stories, we promptly canceled via email and voice mail. This morning when my wife called and contacted David Bell, he was quite agitated, stating there was no way we were getting a full refund since he worked so hard on this account, and then he hung up on my wife. Not good people to deal with. STAY AWAY. By the way, we were lucky and got our full refund.

Regards, Chuck and Monti


Chuck C.
Oct 28, 2008

chuckc45 wrote:
Be very careful with these folks. David Bell of Omega called us numerous times stating that they have "someone very motovated to purchase". My wife and I finally went for it and David rattled off all these forms required to do a timeshare sale, and that with his company it was easy, but we would have to pay $800.00. He had a special running for $620.00 and we gave them our Mastercard number. They then emailed our contract, which essentially stated that they would list our property for 365 days. There was nothing about helping to sell the property what so ever! Within hours of finding this message board and reading other horror stories, we promptly canceled via email and voice mail. This morning when my wife called and contacted David Bell, he was quite agitated, stating there was no way we were getting a full refund since he worked so hard on this account, and then he hung up on my wife. Not good people to deal with. STAY AWAY. By the way, we were lucky and got our full refund.

Regards, Chuck and Monti

This is the modus operandi for ALL upfront fee resale companies ... ALL they want is your upfront fee, period.


R P.

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