Successful Resales & Rental Feedback Wanted

ARE YOU SERIOUS ? I have sold a Timeshare on Redweek. Come on $50., It cost me that for a nice dinner for 2. (Not McDs') A few e-mails, it was a local buyer. I had a escrow company in place, All complete by fax and a stamp. I had 2 t/s segments, at the same resort, now have 1. Never pay some guy on the phone $500. plus on a "we have a buyer for you" call. Plan B. Their are realtors in your area, they get paid when sold. Just my 2 cents...

scotth405 wrote:

I am replying to the statement Red week is the most popular timeshare website? How did You come to this conclusion? or is it most likely Your opinion!? I do know Red Week provides a listing, but there is much much more involved with a timeshare sale! craigslist is free to list timeshares! So dont pay upfront? Why not? This site charges upfront and in return you really get nothing! oh a picture from rci maybe, People dont believe anything you read from this upfront site!

I recently sold a property that would be considered a dog week. I advertised on My Resort Network and got a few inquiries but no committed buyer.

I advertised on Timeshare Users Group and got NO response.

I advertised it in Time Sharing Today Magazine and got one person who wanted to buy but then backed out.

I advertised it free of charge on Bidshares and got a few looks, but no responses.

I advertised it on Redweek and got a few bona fide inquiries and finally sold it to someone who responded to my RedWeek ad.

Oh, by the way, a long time ago I advertised on one of those large upfront fee sites from someone who called me claiming to be able to sell my unit for a whopping price in an expedient manner. Guess how many responses I got. Yep, that is right. Zero! (Fortunately the state Attorney-General was able to help me get my money back).

Point is, RedWeek worked for me better than any other site.

I'm delighted to read of the success of Redweek at meeting the needs of customers. I, too, have had a great experience with Redweek. "Way to go Redweek!"

The message on red week is do not pay any up front fees. this messge is really about Westgate, cedar at the woods, Branson. as advertised on Red Week, i was notified by a really legimate buyer. I have had success with a closing agent at branson, all the the paperwork and forms were mailed to the branson agent, WHO IN TURN FAXEDALL OF THE NECESSARY FORMS TO WESTGATE OFFICE BY THE 17TH OF THE MONTH. I hate to say AS USUAL, Westgate has a letter dated the 5th of the months, the postmark on all of the completed forms is dated the 23rd of the months, and all of the necessary forms were received from Westgate by the 28th of the months, AB0UT 10 DAYS TO LATE FOR WESTGATE TO EXCERISE THE FIRST RIGHT TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY. a phone call to Tiffany Chisom -407-355-1000, ext 51089, never answers, and certified letters to Central florida investments, David Sigel, at westgate resorts ocoee, fl, and Judy smith at Ocoee , Fl. as well as letters to Missouri attorney general. WHY do these timeshare offices have the idea they can back date letters, change the postage meter and attempt to purchase back a timeshare unit when the selling price is only $250.. I would believe that someone from Westgate resorts would reply to these requests How can one believe any thing they say when they are caught in this type of "red handed, double dealing" transactions.

roberts1192 wrote:

I would believe that someone from Westgate resorts would reply to these requests How can one believe any thing they say when they are caught in this type of "red handed, double dealing" transactions.

In my personal opinion, Westgate is "the worst of the worst". Celebrity Resorts (reinvented as "Legacy Vacation Club" after the Celebrity Resorts bankruptcy proceedings of a few years ago) has a solid lock on second place, but they'll never catch Westgate for #1.

Just my own personal opinion...

It appears that you are correct in your opinion concerning westgate resorts. after filing complaint with BBB, there were 632 complaints filed plus 7 serious complaints filed within the last 3 years. after the BBB filed complaint, 3 certified letters to westgate mgt. in Florida, and also to Missouri Attorney general (which is a waste of time), the only reply that I have received is the Annual Billing for 2012 Dues.

To Roberts 1192: This discussion of Westgate and the Right of First Refusal has me puzzled. DID you then sell what you were trying to sell back to Westgate for $250? Sell it to the other interested party? Kept it? Surely Right of First Refusal does not mean you must sell to the resort company for any amount they offer! If you let them bid first but have a better offer, can't you sell it to the higher bidder??

On a brighter note, we just got our MF bill from Westgate. If we pay now with a discount, it only went up $10. Not too bad. MD

As I understand the process, the westgate unit was listed on red week for $250. and had a real interested legimate buyer. Since I had used the transfer agent in branson, mo on previous sales, the same agent was utilized. The process is that any timeshare has 30 days (after they were notified of the pending sale) the FIRST RIGHT to purchase the timeshare unit. The transfer papers and noticed was faxed to westgate on 7/17, the letter from westgate was dated 8/5, and the postgage on the envelope was dated 8/23 (still late) and the forms were received by branson transfer agent 8/27. Even the post mark date on the envelope is over 30 days. I called westgate , Tiffany Chisom, at 407-355-1000, ext. 51089, of course she knew nothing and would get back with me. meanwhile, I sent 3 certified letters to coporate office in florida, no replies filed complaint with BBB. only 632 complaints have been filed, and 7 serious complaints. also letter to Missouri att. general (a waste of postage). that was on 8/29, no replies from anyone except the usual form letter from Travis Dudley, office of citzens services, Florida Attoreny general's office, Tallahassee, Fl, 32399, and phone no. 866-966-7226. the other reply was the 2012 dues notice from Westgate. I have come to the only remedy is to have a number of concerned citzens that have owner ship in timeshares in Missouri, (of course may be owned by corp, in Florida), is to start writing Linda Wagar, Problem Solvers, CHANEEL 4 TV, KC.MO. In some way, the general public needs to be aware of all the "underhand dealings" by timeshare corporations and refusal to answer any more complaints. The citzens of missouri are paying the attorney general office a salary, and also the same with the citzens of florida, so there is no incentive for any correction activity from these offices, As I understand it, the Missouri attorney general has "closed the book" on any bankrupt complaints on French Quarter. The same situation when I have a complaint with TAI, in mount julies , TN, the attorney general just printed what ever TAI, printed as a respose to my complaint. bottom, line, the only way that I have resolved two other copmplaints is to read Ron Burley book "Unscrewed". so far, I have used chapt. 1, and chapt.11. no I do not receive any royalties on this book),(he used to write for AARP,) very discusted timeshare owner.

I have been referred to TWonlineMarketing. Has anyone heard anything about them?

mattw160 wrote:

I have been referred to TWonlineMarketing. Has anyone heard anything about them?

No, I have not. But what did this company offer you? OR, what are you hoping to accomplish with this company?

All these success stories have to be fake. No way all of these properties are being sold. Where is the watchdog for this forum. I smell scam written all over this.

susanb1037 wrote:

All these success stories have to be fake. No way all of these properties are being sold. Where is the watchdog for this forum. I smell scam written all over this.

What are you even commenting upon here ??? What "scam" is it that you reportedly "smell" ??? There are 16 PAGES worth of posts in this thread, among which can be found only a tiny smattering of claims of success.

Am I MISSING something - or are you SMOKING something ???

I really would like to sell my Shell Vacations - West timeshare They ask for $199 up front. I'm more willing to pay $1000-2000 in commissions for a real sale rather than another fake.

suggest see if they have any complainst from better business bureau, or better yet, are they a member of BBB. and check out itmeshare scams and see if their name appears. in my complaint with Westgate, BBB was about the only organizaiton that westgate had to have an answer to the complaint. also have the business send you a copy of the agreement prior to any action.

I agree with those who nominate westgate resorts as "THE WORST OF THE WORST" in dealing with clients who would like to have a change in their contracts. Westgate will advise that the paperwork will be mailed in a week. That means the letter may show a date of Monday, however it is not even mailed until Friday of that week or the followinhg Monday. There are excellent in sending out the renewal notices for the 2012 dues billing. signed , very happy to be a FORMER Estgate owner.

To Roberts 1192 One more time. Did Westgate buy back your timeshare for $250 or any other price? If not, did they in any way prevent you from following through with the other offer you received?

I understand that they were late answering your inquiry and for that reason might have lost their Right of First Refusal, but when they did reply, did they want to buy back your timeshare? Did you sell it to them or anyone? MD

No, Westgate changed their mind and decided to let the $250 sale go thru, ONLY after discussion with cororate office and of course, the decision could have beenhandled with one e mail message to the title company involved in the closing. Instead, Westgage decided to push this probloem some more and supposed to write a letter of this decsion. When BBB asked if I was satisfied with the response my reply "when I received their agreement in writing. "

Maybe you could write that no reply from Westgate by X date will be considered assent to whatever you proposed--and then go ahead with the sale! MD

my ANSWERl, after 3 phone calls to Westgate corporate offices, (I tuess someone was tired of Hearing from me, and constant communication by BBB, Westgate finally faxed their REFUSAL LETTER that they would not go ahead with their right of first offer. So, for $250, the westgate unit was sold to some one in Iowa, and the transfer agent in Brtanson said it was a "christmas miracle" that corporate westgate chaned their mind. my reply is that i have been dealing with timeshares the last 7 years, and I had encoug of their "crap" However, I do appreciate BBB in Forida that kept on this problem untile it was resolved. writing letters to Florieda att. general, and westgate corporate office was a waste of time. I called the 800 number of coporate and someitmes it would take 20 or 25 minutes of their nickel before I would be able to talk with someone, Westgate is very good as billing dues.

roberts1192 wrote:

No, Westgate changed their mind and decided to let the $250 sale go thru, ONLY after discussion with cororate office and of course, the decision could have beenhandled with one e mail message to the title company involved in the closing. Instead, Westgage decided to push this probloem some more and supposed to write a letter of this decsion. When BBB asked if I was satisfied with the response my reply "when I received their agreement in writing. "

I don't understand why Westgate would be engaging in their 'right of first refusal' when timeshares are being given everyday of the week on Ebay and in Bargain Basement ads on Redweek and Tug .... at least now Westgate has someone that was willing to pay $250 for the week and pay future maintenance fees. Even Marriott (high end brand) seldom engages their 'right of first refusal' these days in this economy.