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stanleyf5
Hi, I occasionally get calls about renting my timeshares for an upfront fee. I tell them to "buzz off". Maybe in the future, if I have nothing else to do, I will engage them in conversation as long as I can. This will prevent them from "shafting" someone else, while I am conversing with them. Stan.
Kelley L.
I must commend you on your years of service that you have provided the public. It is nice to know that people are out prosecuting, but times are changing.
We all need to work together to stop these criminals. If we DO NOT report these scum bags to the proper authorities then they cannot investigate to stop them.
My grandmother was ripped off years ago for over $500 and I was not so concerned regarding myself but for the elderly or sick out there that may need the extra cash and fall for this scheme. It was kind of ironic as I was going into NYC (I fight Fraud and abuse) to do an audit and heard a commercial advertising against this. Having knowledge is a wonderful thing but laws are changing all the time to protect consumers about fraud and the more information we give authorities the better off the public will be to stop them. We must report them to the proper authorites as this is another reason we are in a financial mess in the USA.
Happy Holidays to you as well Ken and I am sorry you felt so offended. My intent is to work with all of you to stop them.
I am not a volunteer I fight fraud
Patrick S.
Ya hi this is my first time ever doin anything like this but i owned a timeshare at the El Cid Moro beach resort i owned over 300k points i bought for 23.5k The Villa Trader contacted me promised me a sell said it would take 30-90 days to recieve my check i got a moneygram from The VillaTrader 2 weeks later for 25k I paid a $2000 upfront fee they said it was to complete the sale and they did as promised
Patrick S.
Its a shame that theres so many scams out there but i however am one of the lucky ones that took a risk and it paid off im 100% satisfied with the sale of my timeshare at The Villa Trader i would recomend them to any consumer out there the fee might be a little pricey but its well worth it in the end
Mike N.
patricks100 wrote:Ya hi this is my first time ever doin anything like this but i owned a timeshare at the El Cid Moro beach resort i owned over 300k points i bought for 23.5k The Villa Trader contacted me promised me a sell said it would take 30-90 days to recieve my check i got a moneygram from The VillaTrader 2 weeks later for 25k I paid a $2000 upfront fee they said it was to complete the sale and they did as promised
Amazing, it can usually take a couple months (at least) to close a TS sale. All this was done in TWO WEEKS!!! Sounds a bit fishy to me.
Patrick S.
whats amazing is that all of you are so willing to believe all the hype on this company instead of actually listening to what they have to offer and no it didnt only take 2 weeks it took a month to close on the property after closing i got my check in 2 weeks so the entire process was around a month and 2 weeks
KC
patricks100 wrote:Its a shame that theres so many scams out there but i however am one of the lucky ones that took a risk and it paid off im 100% satisfied with the sale of my timeshare at The Villa Trader i would recomend them to any consumer out there the fee might be a little pricey but its well worth it in the end
O.K. "lucky one" --- we'll certainly be happy here to just look for ourselves at the book and page of the recorded deed in the appropriate county records, verifying this alleged transaction. It's a public record, easily verified by anyone, merely referencing the seller name or buyer name. So "put up" those details for our examination and verification, Patrick, and reform us "disbelievers".
Meanwhile, I won't be holding my breath waiting.... Merry Christmas anyhow.
Last edited by ken1193 on Dec 24, 2008 11:54 AM
Imthe O.
I have went with The Villa Trader and was satasfied. And at the top right of the page theres a link that says view all topics on this forum. Check out the one thats was made by orl. Its says something like Problems with the villa trader?????
Phil L.
kelleyl4 wrote:I received a Call from Villa Trader today and they said they had a buyer for my El Cid property. His name was James but I asked him if I could be the paperwork and review it as that is what I did with Holiday Group. He said he would check and I also asked him to send me an e-mail with all of this information documented just in case I needed to produce it for the authorities etc.
KELLEY YOU DID GOOD!
El Cid must be the most wanted timeshare out there right now.
On other Villa Traders post there are five or six shills telling how they all sold their El Cid for 20,000 after gladly giving up 2,000 to these people.
This is the worse shill attack I have ever seen on one forum. Funny part is these people or maybe only one person doing all this isn't good at it!
This just tells me we timeshare owners are helping to warn others of these parasites and now their trying to fight back by doing what they do best"LIE".
Hope you do your home work first and save your money!
PHILL12
R P.
phill12 wrote:El Cid must be the most wanted timeshare out there right now.
I had never even heard of the resort El Cid until this forum popped up ..... that's strange that all Villa Trader shill postings are concerning El Cid, an obscure resort in Cozumel MX.
Phil L.
jayjay wrote:phill12 wrote:El Cid must be the most wanted timeshare out there right now.I had never even heard of the resort El Cid until this forum popped up ..... that's strange that all Villa Trader shill postings are concerning El Cid, an obscure resort in Cozumel MX.
The fact that many have never heard of El Cid Resorts is probably the reason they used it!
Bring up a resort everyone knows about and many on a forum own or have stayed would just be asking to be called out as a shill even faster than we have.
What is funny is after these parasites have used all their lies and get know where the act is always the same. They starting changing their tone to people and insults like to Kelly or Ken because this is all they do in life.
I believe the reason these low-lifes act like this is they very seldom have second or third conversations with people so its un-chartered water their in.
People need to understand this whole game is to get their money and that is it and people falling for these companies probably will not talk to these scammers again.
Last edited by phill12 on Dec 26, 2008 03:10 PM
Imthe O.
El cid actually has 6 resorts in mexico, 4 in mazatlan, 1 in cancun and 1 in cozumel. To correct you geniuses. You people really have no idea whats out there do you?
KC
I for one decline to waste ANY more time with this completely unconvincing, openly discourteous (and only marginally literate) shill posting under the name "imtheo".
As the signs at the zoo so very wisely advise --- "Please don't feed the animals".
Last edited by ken1193 on Dec 27, 2008 10:23 AM
R P.
ken1193 wrote:.... there does NOT need to be anything in writing for there to be a valid contract. Verbal contracts are executed all the time.
Ken, I don't know about other verbal contracts being valid in a court of law, but I do know that anything a timeshare salesperson verbally tells a prospective buyer (if it's not in writing in the contract) holds absolutely no water in a court of law. The ONLY contract that holds water is the written contract that many buyers fail to read at all.
I honestly don't see how ANY verbal contract, if not in writing, can be valid in a court of law (he said, she said syndrom).
R P.
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R P.
imtheo wrote:El cid actually has 6 resorts in mexico, 4 in mazatlan, 1 in cancun and 1 in cozumel. To correct you geniuses. You people really have no idea whats out there do you?
The only resort in the RCI catalog of resorts named El Cid is El Cid La Ceiba, Cozumel MX. If there are others, they are under another name. There are none in the II catalog.
KC
jayjay notes: >> There are none in the II catalog.<< ==================================
Actually, the II directory does indeed identify at least one (maybe more). Specifically, I saw at least El Moro Tower El Cid at Mazatlan (II codes MOR & MO1). However, regardless of how many "El Cid" facilities there may be, the fact remains that the claims of the assorted "Villa Trader" shills still have no credibility whatsoever. After (moderator) Marty's exposure of one persons' attempted ploy to "create" multiple fabricated Villa Trader cheerleaders, all of them except "imtheo" immediately disappeared into thin air just as quickly as "they" had appeared within a few hours of each other in the first place. I suspect that sole survivor "imtheo" will also soon disappear as well, having been quite thoroughly pummeled (and, I trust, a bit embarrassed) by some harsh exposure to the bright sunlight of stated truth and accurate facts. Tall tales and side track issues can only distract people for so long. Sooner or later, the truth prevails. I hope that "imtheo" has now simply run completely out of desperate, unconvincing, factually inaccurate, totally fictional tales to tell.
Last edited by ken1193 on Dec 27, 2008 10:26 AM
Phil L.
Ken don't hold back!
Tell us what you really think!
PHILL12 LMAO
KC
jayjay states: >> I don't know about other verbal contracts being valid in a court of law, but I do know that anything a timeshare salesperson verbally tells a prospective buyer (if it's not in writing in the contract) holds absolutely no water in a court of law. The ONLY contract that holds water is the written contract that many buyers fail to read at all.
I honestly don't see how ANY verbal contract, if not in writing, can be valid in a court of law (he said, she said syndrom). ================================================
I'm not interested in conducting a law class here, but you're essentially comparing apples and spinach. I'll try to be very brief (no pun intended) in making a simple but clear distinction here. You are correct that any and all verbal statements made by a salesperson **OUTSIDE OF** (i.e., NOT also specifically reflected in writing within) the associated written content of a timeshare sales contract do NOT somehow magically become any part of that written contract. Developer sales weasels know this fact. If it's not in writing within the sales contract, it simply does not exist. That much is clear and indisputable.
However, you are NOT correct in apparently believing that a verbal contract can neither exist nor be valid and upheld in court. On the contrary, it happens every day, generally with some witness corroboration on one or both side(s). In the absence of (or with) witness input, the court ultimately decides on credibility and merit and, consequently, who ultimately prevails in the matter.
In short summary, these are two completely different situations --- one in which there is, in fact, a written contract and one in which there is no written contract at all. This is essentially comparing apples to spinach ---they are simply just completely and entirely different.
Last edited by ken1193 on Dec 27, 2008 12:51 PM
KC
phill12 wrote:So Phil, do you think I'm being too subtle? It's just my natural, innate shyness (...not!). :-)Ken don't hold back! Tell us what you really think! PHILL12 LMAO
Last edited by ken1193 on Dec 28, 2008 06:17 AM
