Timeshare Concepts

no response from Ted?

tedk74 wrote:

jayjay How can you instruct someone on how to build a house when you have not built one yourself? What qualifies you to classify TS Concepts as a scam? The short answer is your not qualified. Wouldn't a scam be less than willing to fully refund a client that doesn't wish to continue services? Have you worked directly with TS Concepts? I'm sure that answer would be no to that question as well.

It's my understanding that the purpose of a message board is to learn and share ideas vs. sharing a poorly formed "opinion" on a business that you know nothing about.

Help Redweek.com educate Timeshare Owners based on facts vs. your ill formed opinions on something you are less than an expert in.

As a previous poster stated you evidently charge a large upfront fee to list a timeshare for sell or rent on your site that no one will ever see because no one is looking to buy timeshares in this economy .... in fact many people are giving their timeshares away. Take a look at Redweek's and at TUG's (www.tugbbs.com) Bargain Basement Timeshares and Ebay's (under real eatate).

jayjay wrote:

tedk74 wrote:

jayjay How can you instruct someone on how to build a house when you have not built one yourself? What qualifies you to classify TS Concepts as a scam? The short answer is your not qualified. Wouldn't a scam be less than willing to fully refund a client that doesn't wish to continue services? Have you worked directly with TS Concepts? I'm sure that answer would be no to that question as well.

It's my understanding that the purpose of a message board is to learn and share ideas vs. sharing a poorly formed "opinion" on a business that you know nothing about.

Help Redweek.com educate Timeshare Owners based on facts vs. your ill formed opinions on something you are less than an expert in.

As a previous poster stated you evidently charge a large upfront fee to list a timeshare for sell or rent on your site that no one will ever see because no one is looking to buy timeshares in this economy .... in fact many people are giving their timeshares away. Take a look at Redweek's and at TUG's (www.tugbbs.com) Bargain Basement Timeshares and Ebay's (under real eatate).

stevep376: You should educate yourself on things before you speak. Although every message board needs a person like you posting for entertainment purposes.

For a person to sign up for the types of accounts (plural) we have with bidshares and the 9 other mediums we use it would cost 6 or 8 times what we charge as a one time fee to a consumer.

Ever gone fishing? The more lines in the water you have, the better chance you have of catching a fish. This goes the same for marketing and advertising. Would you be bashing our business if I told you that TS Concepts also advertised on Redweek.com as well? I highly doubt it.

Do the math....check your facts and assist the users of Redweek.com, educate yourself and then respond intelligently.

Now on to JayJay: The data you have is incorrect. As stated above we have at minimum 10 mediums we use to market properties. Our main site is just one of them.

To further your statements regarding TUG and Ebay, if you dig a little bit you'll find companies like The Relief companies and other similar in nature attempting to dump properties after a consumer has paid the company 2K plus to take the property off their hands. Dig into Tug and Redweek.com to get up to speed on this as the data was collected from these 2 sites.

Every consumer has different circumstances that make them interested in selling or renting their vacation property.

Timeshare sell today much the same way that they sold when the original owner purchased the unit. People go to the resorts and the resorts themselves sell the consumer on why buying a timeshare property makes sense.

I hope this clarifies things for both of you. Should further explanation be required please let me know.

Ted

LOL, I usually don't respond to this stupidity but at this point I must. Timeshare concepts is a scam period. They are like any other listing company except Ted fools himself into thinking he is different. Don't argue with him, he is living in a dream world. He is a laughingstock of the timeshare resale community which is hard to obtain considering most in this business are not exactly the "elite of society", and I'm being kind. The fact that you use bidshares doesn't make you legit, thats just another excuse for you to use when the state comes in for inspection. Plus to deny that there are former VPR people there is a outright lie.

It doesn't matter if you have a licensed room, an unlicensed room, if you pitch heat or if you collect western union its all a damn scam. Get over yourself and stop trying to pass yourself off as legitimate. Save that **** for the old people that you rip off on the phone.

I'm not knocking the hustle........I just know this Ted guy is a known clown. The only difference between VPR, TS Concepts, Condo Trader or any other listing company is Ted has a direct feed to his office to avoid his reps pitching heat? Really? Everyone in the timeshare resale industry has now understand it was all a giant scam.

Are you that ignorant to think otherwise Ted? We are not the dept. of Ag no need to convince us. LOL.

tedk74 wrote:

Would you be bashing our business if I told you that TS Concepts also advertised on Redweek.com as well? I highly doubt it.Ted

I have no affiliation with Redweek .... only as a member of this forum and the fact that I previously sold many timeshares via Redweek.

And, yes, if you charge a large upfront fee then the fact that you advertise on Redweek makes no difference to me in the least. I will always advise people to never, ever pay a large fee (hundreds to thousands of dollars) to any entity to market their timeshare.

mauricea31 wrote:

LOL, I usually don't respond to this stupidity but at this point I must. Timeshare concepts is a scam period. They are like any other listing company except Ted fools himself into thinking he is different. Don't argue with him, he is living in a dream world. He is a laughingstock of the timeshare resale community which is hard to obtain considering most in this business are not exactly the "elite of society", and I'm being kind. The fact that you use bidshares doesn't make you legit, thats just another excuse for you to use when the state comes in for inspection. Plus to deny that there are former VPR people there is a outright lie.

It doesn't matter if you have a licensed room, an unlicensed room, if you pitch heat or if you collect western union its all a damn scam. Get over yourself and stop trying to pass yourself off as legitimate. Save that **** for the old people that you rip off on the phone.

I'm not knocking the hustle........I just know this Ted guy is a known clown. The only difference between VPR, TS Concepts, Condo Trader or any other listing company is Ted has a direct feed to his office to avoid his reps pitching heat? Really? Everyone in the timeshare resale industry has now understand it was all a giant scam.

Are you that ignorant to think otherwise Ted? We are not the dept. of Ag no need to convince us. LOL.

mauricea31: I'm looking for a little clarity here.

You state you usually don't respond, so why did you now?

I will reiterate no VPR reps currently work at TS Concepts.

"I'm not knocking the hustle........"

OK it's all coming back to me now. Mauricea31 were you the sales reps that came in for a job that I refused to hire because of the known fact you provided lies to consumers at other offices that you worked at? Or were you one of the agents I terminated for misrepresenting the services we offer? Gotta be one of the two....

This would be the only reason for the personal attacks I can think of.

"The only difference between VPR, TS Concepts, Condo Trader or any other listing company is Ted has a direct feed to his office to avoid his reps pitching heat? Really? Everyone in the timeshare resale industry has now understand it was all a giant scam. "

So keeping the TS Concepts agents from lying to consumers or using these tools to prevent misrepresentation of the services we offer is a scam?!? You make a clear point that preventing agents from lying to consumers is a difference between VPR, Condo Trader and other similar companies in the resale industry vs. TS Concepts. Rather contradicting don't you think?

Preventing the lies to consumers is a huge reason TS Concepts is not like these other companies. When an agent is caught providing misleading information to a client, the agent is terminated and the client receives a full refund. Hardly how a scam would operate if you ask me.

There are no buyers waiting, the unit has not been sold or rented and there is no check in the mail. These are things a scam company would present to a potential consumer. These are also thing TS Concepts goes out of the way to prevent from happening to consumers they work with.

There are allot of bad companies out there I fully agree, however at the same time just because there are allot of bad that doesn't make us one of them.

Ted you never answered my question. How much do you charge per listing? Why does 85 year old Elda in Maine pay $1500 and 35 year old Martin in New York pays $399? And don't insult me by reading off your script. You sell properties just like the resort does? Hardly......but you pitch that. No VPR people? That's strange. Ms Plathy works there and she ran VPR.......nothing but a liar.

No Ms Plathy working with our company. Check your information.

There is no one more qualified to sell a Timeshare than the same resort staff that sold the original owner the property.

Through the rental process the Resorts themselves sell the renter as to why buying at the resort makes sense. The sellers we work with price properties cheaper than the resort. The renter knows going in what they can purchase the property for.

The charges depend on the program the client is interested in. We offer one time rentals, one time rental with sale option and continuous rental and sale option. Further pricing is based off the number of units the consumer wishes us to work with. As to your hypothetical questions about Elda and Martin I've no clue what your getting at. Pricing doesn't work that way at TS Concepts.

Would never wanna work with or for you Ted. Did jacci plathy who ran vpr not work for your company up until this week? Like I said he's a liar and there is no sense arguing with him. There is no resale market and everyone knows it. Ted you are a liar. Last post for me.

uh oh..........13 complaints with the BBB already and down to a B+. Unheard of for a company who has been in business for a little over a year.

It's spelled Jacci Platthy. (I just received an email from her on January 13, 2012) Timeshare Concepts Customer Care Rep (ph 877-547-2430 and her fax # 727-392-0709. Wow! Again, I really have to thank my lucky stars for this type of message board system or I would have been 'taken' for $1750. I have very little money left to be scammed out of. NOW If I could get some help on how I can get my $8,000.00 back from the Branson Summerwinds Resort/Stormy Point Village that I purchased six months ago, under the false pretenses that they would help me to sell my other timeshare that I am still paying on. "You should have no problem getting $18,000.00 for that property" "We do this all the time" I know NOW, as well as all of you, that this will never happen, so please hold your tongue. I am now the unhappy owner of two timeshares and going broke because of it. I was naive. I'm a 'Minnesota nice' girl who still believed a (sales) person's word. Any suggestions are appreciated.

I have,, they are very pleasent and knowledgeable. I prefer to let a professional handle My advertising needs. They do check out! I was very happy with the results.

Mike Earl, get a life!

Yes, I have signed up with them a year ago for 2 of my units and paid lots of money ....$1800 for the 2 units to be adverstised for rent or sale. Well here is the mode of operation. They have a Guarantee in writing which they say is a solid guarantee. but this is how it reads and how it is applied: TimeShare Concepts aggrees to credit xxxx 100% of the marketing fee that was tendered on xxxdatexxx as long as said client did not receive at least three legitimate offers, bids, updates or inquires on their advertised property within 18 months. Well here is the key little word "updates". Once you sign up they will call you with updates stating that the ad is running during the first 3 or 4 weeks. Quess what, they have met the guarantee requirements and they get to keep the money. They see to it that no one can get their money back. And in my case once they called me 4 times, I have not heard from them again. Also of interest, they use a website, bidshares.com, a free auction site for rentals and sales. They post your timeshare units there and monitor bids coming in and then they call you that a inquiry has arrived (no bid dollars given at that time) and to negociated the time and dates and unit size. As it turned out for me, I was to call them back with confirmation date and for her to put in a bid which then would be accepted or rejected. When I called her back, I found out that the phone number was a disconnected number wich was used by the social security office in the east coast and had a recording to call other numbers to contact the social security office in the vicinity. Well that turned out to be a bogus number, but as far as Timeshare Concepts, it was a "bid and inquiry", so they have met their Guarantee. At the end I will not get my money back and they have quit listing my unit and have not called me in 7 months.

What do you call an outfit like that ????

maryd530 wrote:

Has anyone done business with the company Timeshare Concepts? They list properties for rent or sale. Upfront fee is $799.00. They are out of Seminole, FL. The rep has given us all kinds of license numbers to verify their legitimacy as well as Better Business Bureau ratings of A+ to BBB. Thanks. Mary

ulih wrote:

Yes, I have signed up with them a year ago for 2 of my units and paid lots of money ....$1800 for the 2 units to be adverstised for rent or sale. Well here is the mode of operation. They have a Guarantee in writing which they say is a solid guarantee. but this is how it reads and how it is applied: TimeShare Concepts aggrees to credit xxxx 100% of the marketing fee that was tendered on xxxdatexxx as long as said client did not receive at least three legitimate offers, bids, updates or inquires on their advertised property within 18 months. Well here is the key little word "updates". Once you sign up they will call you with updates stating that the ad is running during the first 3 or 4 weeks. Quess what, they have met the guarantee requirements and they get to keep the money. They see to it that no one can get their money back. And in my case once they called me 4 times, I have not heard from them again. Also of interest, they use a website, bidshares.com, a free auction site for rentals and sales. They post your timeshare units there and monitor bids coming in and then they call you that a inquiry has arrived (no bid dollars given at that time) and to negociated the time and dates and unit size. As it turned out for me, I was to call them back with confirmation date and for her to put in a bid which then would be accepted or rejected. When I called her back, I found out that the phone number was a disconnected number wich was used by the social security office in the east coast and had a recording to call other numbers to contact the social security office in the vicinity. Well that turned out to be a bogus number, but as far as Timeshare Concepts, it was a "bid and inquiry", so they have met their Guarantee. At the end I will not get my money back and they have quit listing my unit and have not called me in 7 months.

maryd530 wrote:

Has anyone done business with the company Timeshare Concepts? They list properties for rent or sale. Upfront fee is $799.00. They are out of Seminole, FL. The rep has given us all kinds of license numbers to verify their legitimacy as well as Better Business Bureau ratings of A+ to BBB. Thanks. Mary

What do you call an outfit like that ???? It's called an outright scam.

YEAH, I JUST GOT A CALL FROM THEM AND THEY SAID THEY HAD MY TIMESHARE SOLD. THEY SAID THEY HAD AN OFFER BUT IT WASEN'T WHAT I WANTED. IT WAS CLOSE SO I TOLD THEM O.K. WELL WHEN WE GOT TO THE END OF CLOSING THEN I OWED SOME BACK TAXES???? SO I CALLED MY TIMESHARE AND CHECKED ON THAT AND THEY SAID I DIDN'T OWE ANYTHING. BUT I TOLD HIM I DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY HE SAID IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PAID BEFORE THEY COULD CLOSE THE DEAL. AND AT THE END OF THE COFERSATION HE SAID HE GUESS I COULD COME DOWN THERE AND BLOW HIM TO GET THE MONEY TO PAY THE TAXES. WELL GO FIGURE. SCAM IS WHAT THAT SOUNDS LIKE. LOL MY TIMESHARE GAVE ME THE NAME OF SOMEONE THAT THEY HAVE CHECKED OUT THAT WORKS HARD TO SELL YOUR TIMESHARE AND YOU CAN TRUST THEM, THEY ARE TIMESHARES ONLY IN ORLANDO FL. GOOD LUCK.

deborahw281

Please contact the office at 727-369-8059 at your earliest convenience. This is very important.

Thank you in advance.

No such call would have come from TS Concepts. We have not contacted anyone regarding an offer today.

Please call the customer service number stated before and which is also located on your agreement.

A call in from you is very important.

funny how this place is still running when all the employees of timeshare concepts have been let go... there have been no CS reps since december. the last people i spoke with there that was was a real southern sounding fellow named collin and a funny sounding guy named joseph. they were very helpful and informative at the time since then the owner/general manager ted kruger is the only one answering the phones... that being said, it isnt hard to tell that there arent anymore employees. i bet after this post is read, mr. kruger will have someone else answer that phone number to cover his rear end. i sure would hate to be the one that has to clean up that mess. we all know the owners of that company will have to deal with this MESS for yoars to come. weather its refunding people their money or loosing their business license. some people have even spent time in JAIL. there are currnetly ongoing cases against company owners in the state of florida. this advise helps.

buttw wrote:

funny how this place is still running when all the employees of timeshare concepts have been let go... there have been no CS reps since december. the last people i spoke with there that was was a real southern sounding fellow named collin and a funny sounding guy named joseph. they were very helpful and informative at the time since then the owner/general manager ted kruger is the only one answering the phones... that being said, it isnt hard to tell that there arent anymore employees. i bet after this post is read, mr. kruger will have someone else answer that phone number to cover his rear end. i sure would hate to be the one that has to clean up that mess. we all know the owners of that company will have to deal with this MESS for yoars to come. weather its refunding people their money or loosing their business license. some people have even spent time in JAIL. there are currnetly ongoing cases against company owners in the state of florida. this advise helps.

Not sure what it is your suggesting that I cover. In case you didn't read the post above I was telling the prior poster to contact customer service immediately....and as of this post the person who made the claim has yet to identify themselves to discuss this unbelievable claim...