Has anyone purchased from Vallart Gardens?

Hello Stacy, have you gotten anywhere with the lawsuit. I also purchased in 2018, dealt with Vallarta Gardens, Pila Marketing, Arrow Marketing, and Cromwell and Berkeley.

Got out of a fraudulent transaction there many years ago with every cent. I see lots of talk here about lawsuits. What assets of theirs would be available? Have you folks thought about who has facilitated many of these fraudulent deals? Visa and AmEx, that's who! And the Mexican government.

Valid points. We got out of our contract because we followed the recission requirements to the letter, but VG kept fighting it, and Amex wasn't nearly as helpful as I thought they should be, as we had documentation. I had to elevate it a couple levels up in corporate before they agreed to rescind the charges. They deal in volume and don't really like to 'rock the boat' if they aren't on the hook for an invalid charge, IMHO.

Can I rent my fractional week on this site? It is not considered a time share. I own 4 weeks a year at a condo in Oregon.

I rescinded my contract also via email as soon as we returned home from the stay where lies and margaritas had induced our purchase. I copied the government authorities on my message to them rescinding within the timeframe allowed. And FIRST I made sure they would respond to my email by saying something non-threatening to them lest they pretend they hadn't even received emails at the address I used. I think it took a week or two to get it fully resolved. We ended up refunding to them their "gift" to us of a local tour which they bestowed upon us after we signed the contract. $79 well spent to separate from them.

Let me just say, purchasing a time share anywhere, including the US where we are more familiar with laws and resources for our own protection, is virtually always a mistake for anyone doing it to "save money" on your vacations. You will never save money purchasing any kind of timeshare weeks or points package. Surprise! Nobody sells you something to save YOU money, they are doing it to make more money for themselves! With timeshare ownership you WILL gain access to some vacation forms that are not as accessible to non-timeshare owners. For the latter reason timeshare ownership can benefit some (I enjoy my RCI membership) but not most. There has never been a timeshare solicitation that actually saved the purchasers any money. I know, I have been to perhaps 50 of them. I go for the free gifts. THOSE save you money on travel. Accepting the gift and then NOT buying CAN save you money on travel. Buying never does.

Hi can I have the name and phone number of the attorney

Has anyone been contacted by Capital Real Estate Advisory Group about purchasing your Kovay/Vallarta Gardens membership?

Hello Andrew, HELP…!!!! We believe that we are victims of this ! I tried to resolve the “ payments@ issue and have not received anything ! please help us with recommended advice of getting out! i can be reached at apalacios3528@gmail.com thanks AP

This fraud is still going on with change of resort name to Kovay Vacations, change of timeshare divestment company, change of fractional ownership deferred security company, etc. Any info you can share (per your post) on the many company name changes, documentation provided to your CC company, etc. would be greatly appreciated. There is a private Facebook group "Kovay Gardens / Vallarta Gardens - Debt Club !" that would very much like to hear of your experience. You have to request to be a member and answer some basic questions to be admitted into the group. There are many, many, many in the group who have been frauded out of millions of dollars and they are working toward legal action, engaging FBI, Profeco, etc. to shut down this illegal, fraudulent activity.

thomasb653 wrote:

I am sorry you lost money in this scam. What everyone needs to realize is these company's that they say are going to buy your timeshare or sell your weeks do not exist. If you go through the posts you will see at least 20 "companies" that partner with VG. The one they tried to use with us was located on a vacant lot in Oklahoma. These companies in reality are Vallarta Gardens. They are one in the same. They wait for a while. Usually a month or two, and then claim company went bankrupt or another excuse and then come up with another company name for the next batch of victims. We were able to get a refund from our credit card company by showing all the different "companies" and were able to show the pattern they use. We got our refund well after rescinding period was over. Haven't been on this site for awhile and it makes me sick this is still happening !

Stacy, please Post Mario's contact info and address.I will be going to Cabo soon.Want to meet with him.

staceyh274 wrote:

Hi Stacy i'm Also working with them.I was i'm cabo just there weeks ago and My husband and i paid Mr.Alcala a visit.Mario was very polite and answered all our questions.Mr Flores had just flown out of Town to look after a matter for a client he representa whom was a víctim to Vallarta Gardens. Look good so far and who knows how Much we will be granted but atleast we knows they exist and are real.

Hi Randall B.,

Can you send me the contract information of your lawyer? We have been scammed lately and it was 29 days before we realized it when they started pressuring us to pay our remaining balance. We said we would not pay it fully and we contested the downpayment from our credit card company but Vallarta Garden, now Kovay Garden is threatening us to be endorsed to a California collection agency.

norlinan@yahoo.com

Hi Randall B.,

Can you send me the contact information of your lawyer? We have been scammed lately and it was 29 days before we realized it when they started pressuring us to pay our remaining balance. We said we would not pay it fully and we contested the downpayment from our credit card company but Vallarta Garden, now Kovay Garden is threatening us to be endorsed to a California collection agency.

norlinan@yahoo.com

randallb68 wrote:

Read back on this message thread - there have been numerous people who have been scammed. Even many of us that realized in time and legally got out of the contract are put through the wringer.

In our case, we signed up, with the standard deal - they would get a seller for our existing time share, which would cover the cost of their contract, we would sell weeks we didn't use, yadda yadda yadda.

I then did more research while we were still in Mexico, and when we returned a couple days later to finalize things, I let them know that we would be giving notice as required via registered mail of our intent to not enter into the contract. Even though we did everything by the book, they still sent our payment through on our Amex card. I then spent the next three months getting Amex to agree that it was not a valid contract. Finally Amex agreed to reverse the charge. That wasn't the end, though - VG sent the 'bill' to a California collection agency. It took a strongly worded letter from our attorney to get them to let it loose. These are bad actors engaged in bad acts.

This was years ago and was simply a letter articulating the facts of the contract recission by my personal attorney - he has no specialty in this area and isn't looking for business in Mexico. If you rescinded the contract according to its terms and conditions, any competent attorney can draft and send it.

Hi, we bought and are happy so far.

We bought and are happy so far.

We bought and we are happy

What is it that makes you happy? You're in the serious minority here.

We'll have to assume she's so happy because she's in bed with Kovay Gardens, Vallarta Gardens, whatver name comes up next! All of you who have been scammed the past couple of years should write Visa and Am/Ex, the two who continuously approve these fraudulent deals for the ultimate victims - you. Press them for answers, and show them evidence of fraud. Ask c/c corporations why they do approvals, and also write letters to your local politicians, especially those who have responsibilities in judicial and financial portfolios. Submit reviews to Trustpilot and other review websites.

randallb68 wrote:

What is it that makes you happy? You're in the serious minority here.

She's obviously still drinking margaritas....note she added the same message multiple times hahahaha

I have Dennis. Mcmahan @yahoo.com