Omega Marketing Solutions any one had dealings with them?

pamelac114 wrote:

I currently have my Whistler timeshare listed with Vacation Register (I did have to pay a small upfront fee). Today I got a call on my cell phone from a man named "Chris" (was hoping it was an offer to buy my timeshare). He was talking so fast that I couldn't get a handle on what the call was about other than it was a company called Omega "Mortgage" and it was about my timeshare. He then transferred me to another man named "Chris Brooks". Chris told me that the company was Omega Timeshares and it was one of only two companies that were legally allowed to resell my timeshare. He said that when I bought my timeshare back in 2002 I signed an agreement to that effect (it was in the small print according to him) and that I also signed an agreement that when I listed it I had to pay $2,499. I asked him for a copy of that and he said that it was encripted and he couldn't fax it to me or mail it to me, but that I had the paperwork and it was there. He wanted me to pay the $2,499 right now but I refused and said I would go through my paperwork and get back to him tomorrow. I called Whiski Jack and they had never heard of Omega and said that I didn't have to pay any money up front in order to sell my timeshare and I could list it through anyone I wanted. Omega was pretty convincing to me and I'm glad I held my ground and wouldn't give them that money. What a scam, that's scary!!!!

I'm no expert in Latin, but I think the name "Omega" translates to "The end"...the end of your finances but no end of their efforts to scam you for more money.;}

I own 32,000 points with Global Exchange Vacation Club (GEVC) through RCI. I started looking for resale last August, 2007 and got a call from Omega Marketing. Pressure was applied by Chris, with guarantee for sale within a month and made worse by the the upfront fee of $2432.00 which I paid, a fee that supposedly represents closing costs assuring that I will never have to pay another cent. That was August 31, 2007 and I have never heard from Chris again; I made monthly calls to the company only to hear that they are advertising aggressively. Then I learned the fee was non refundable & for advertising only. I feel that I have been swindled and will join any class action suit. This is a scam!

claudettep4 tells the all-too-often repeated story: re: >>... with guarantee for sale within a month << ================================================= That's most assuredly not stated in writing anywhere. In fact, you may very well have nothing at all in writing. Accordingly, there was never any "guarantee" --- just a "meaningless oral statement", which was completely untrue.

re: >> That was August 31, 2007 and I have never heard from Chris again<< ================================================= And you never will. His work was done as soon as you paid him for the completely worthless "advertising". He had no further incentive or motivation to help you after that, since there simply was nothing more in it for him after receiving your "advertising" money --- regardless of whether your timeshare product EVER got sold or not. re: >> Then I learned the fee was non refundable & for advertising only. I feel that I have been swindled and will join any class action suit. This is a scam! << ================================================ Unfortunately, no class action suit is ever going to happen or ever be available to "join". While it is indeed sad that people continually throw good money away in this fashion, the time to do your homework in regard to the intricacies of selling a timeshare is BEFORE parting with your hard earned cash. These upfront fee parasites are pond scum, that's for sure, but what they are doing is NOT illegal. You VOLUNTARILY CHOSE to pay them (far too much money) for completely worthless ADVERTISING. That's never going to land them in court --- it will only land them in line at the bank, waiting patiently to deposit your money.

You need to take an active role and try to sell what you have on your own (RedWeek, MyResortNetwork, TUG, eBay, Craiglist, VacationTimeshareResales, Bidshares). For about $100 in TOTAL expenditure, you can reach every prospective buyer on this planet. Unfortunately, however, the GEVC product you own has very little market value. I wish you luck....you're going to need lots of it to sell GEVC.

You know, I think I've said this before, but I believe that the only way anything will be done about these theives will be to go public. Get the media involved and bring pressure to bear on them. With enough pressure the attorney general may be forced to take a part. There are enough people right here on this blog to substantiate that something has been going on. I too, was promised a quick sale within 3 months for $13,000. I don't know if anyone was given a firm return amount, but my wife and I were.

irvinr2 states in relevant part: >> With enough pressure the attorney general may be forced to take a part.<< ===============================================

With all due respect, I believe that you're missing a critically important underlying point here.

The fact is that the attorney generals' authority is limited to the enforcement and prosecution of existing laws. As much as I personally despise the bottom dwelling upfront fee "advertising" parasites, what they are doing is plainly and simply NOT illegal. They encourage people to CHOOSE to VOLUNTARILY pay them (FAR too much money) for worthless advertising. They appeal to greed, citing grossly inflated and unrealistic "selling" (not in this lifetime) figures. They make empty verbal claims and assurances (but NEVER in writing). These verbal statements are completely meaningless from a legal perspective -- and they know that. These parasitic practices have been in place and well known for a very long time. The practices are unethical, they are deceitful, they are despicable --- but they are NOT illegal. There is generally very little media interest in the matter, since it's old news. The one and only REAL solution is a legislative fix, i.e., NEW LAWS which strictly control and dictate disclosure and procedural requirements for these parasites. Until that time, the mantra must evidently be repeated over and over again --- DO NOT PAY ANYONE AN UPFRONT FEE TO SELL YOUR TIMESHARE!

Ken 1193 said: The fact is that the attorney generals' authority is limited to the enforcement and prosecution of existing laws. As much as I personally despise the bottom dwelling upfront fee "advertising" parasites, what they are doing is plainly and simply NOT illegal.

I beg to differ with you. If their representitives are promising to be able to sell timeshares for a particular dollar amount within a specified time limit, I believe that's fraud and can be tried under any states laws.

irvinr2 wrote:

You know, I think I've said this before, but I believe that the only way anything will be done about these theives will be to go public. Get the media involved and bring pressure to bear on them. With enough pressure the attorney general may be forced to take a part. There are enough people right here on this blog to substantiate that something has been going on. I too, was promised a quick sale within 3 months for $13,000. I don't know if anyone was given a firm return amount, but my wife and I were.

Please enter Omega Marketing in the search feature (top right hand corner) of this site and you will come up with hundreds of posts concerning Omega Marketing's scam.

These type of scam artists set up shop and call themselves timeshare advertisers (not regulated), therefore they get away with lying to people and stealing their hard earned money. Until upfront timeshare scam businesses are regulated by a government agency, the scams will continue.

They tell prospective clients they can get an unrealistic high price for their timeshare (in the case above, $22,000) but in reality that's not the case on the resale market (resales garner approximately 1/3 to 1/4 of what was paid a developer in the vast majority of cases). However, the prospective client believes their lies and gives them their credit card number for the upfront fee ... end of story, that's all they wanted in the first place.

That's what these places are hoping for. They want their victims to feel helpless which allows them to continue to scam other unsuspecting victims. Do you work for one of these vultures?

irvinr2 wrote:

That's what these places are hoping for. They want their victims to feel helpless which allows them to continue to scam other unsuspecting victims. Do you work for one of these vultures?

Isn't that what all scam artists do ... prey on the vulnerable?

Heavens no, I wouldn't work for an upfront fee resale company if my life depended on it ... I have a conscience ... I'd rather dig ditches. Those people have no conscience whatsoever. There's an old saying concerning the laws of the universe that goes 'WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND' and those vultures will get theirs one day one way or another.

You all do know that Omega is monitoring this posting site. The SCUM will use any info you post here to there advantage

Who cares if they monitor. If they weren't so ruthless they wouldn't have to bother. It's too bad they can't read my mind.

howardb47 wrote:

You all do know that Omega is monitoring this posting site. The SCUM will use any info you post here to there advantage

With all the negative posts here concerning Omega I don't see any advantage they would have. The proof's in black and white.

I am curious about the (relative) lack of Better Business Bureau complants about this company, Omega Marketing Solutions, LLC (at WWW.BBB.org). The infamous Dustin Meister, metioned in several posts, suggested I review the BBB site to see that the company has a decent track record there. They do have an amazingly low number of complaints, based on what I just read in this forum. I find that weird, buit I will still NOT be giving them any money up front to cover their costs of promotion. Plus I don't believe he/they resold 90+ units in my home resort last year. Bad guess by him at what number I'd find enticing, but hey, I don't think he anticipated the question.

michaelz50 states in part: >> I am curious about the (relative) lack of Better Business Bureau complants about this company, Omega Marketing Solutions, LLC (at WWW.BBB.org). The infamous Dustin Meister, metioned in several posts, suggested I review the BBB site to see that the company has a decent track record there. They do have an amazingly low number of complaints, based on what I just read in this forum. << ----------------------------------------

Keep in mind that the BBB makes the process of completing and filing a formal complaint sufficiently difficult and convoluted that many people don't actually complete the process.

Additionally, some people know that in the final analysis the BBB is actually just a useless, powerless, legally meaningless entity in the first place anyhow, with no legal authority of any kind whatsoever. BBB will sell a membership to ANYONE who pays the fee. While much of the general public may naively believe that BBB membership actually means something, in reality it means only that the BBB membership fee has been paid ---- no more, no less.

ken1193 wrote:

michaelz50 states in part: >> I am curious about the (relative) lack of Better Business Bureau complants about this company, Omega Marketing Solutions, LLC (at WWW.BBB.org). The infamous Dustin Meister, metioned in several posts, suggested I review the BBB site to see that the company has a decent track record there. They do have an amazingly low number of complaints, based on what I just read in this forum. << ----------------------------------------

Keep in mind that the BBB makes the process of completing and filing a formal complaint sufficiently difficult and convoluted that many people don't actually complete the process.

Additionally, some people know that in the final analysis the BBB is actually just a useless, powerless, legally meaningless entity in the first place anyhow, with no legal authority of any kind whatsoever. BBB will sell a membership to ANYONE who pays the fee. While much of the general public may naively believe that BBB membership actually means something, in reality it means only that the BBB membership fee has been paid ---- no more, no less.

We only pay $375 for our little company (not timeshare related).

cynthia281 wrote:

ken1193 wrote:

michaelz50 states in part: >> I am curious about the (relative) lack of Better Business Bureau complants about this company, Omega Marketing Solutions, LLC (at WWW.BBB.org). The infamous Dustin Meister, metioned in several posts, suggested I review the BBB site to see that the company has a decent track record there. They do have an amazingly low number of complaints, based on what I just read in this forum. << ----------------------------------------

Keep in mind that the BBB makes the process of completing and filing a formal complaint sufficiently difficult and convoluted that many people don't actually complete the process.

Additionally, some people know that in the final analysis the BBB is actually just a useless, powerless, legally meaningless entity in the first place anyhow, with no legal authority of any kind whatsoever. BBB will sell a membership to ANYONE who pays the fee. While much of the general public may naively believe that BBB membership actually means something, in reality it means only that the BBB membership fee has been paid ---- no more, no less.

This is an untrue statement. Members are removed when their ratings go down. This is very unfair to the BBB. The organization is very beneficial, as it collects data and charges nothing to the consumer for doing so.

We only pay $375 for our little company (not timeshare related).

With all due respect, I stand by every word of my original statement as being absolutely correct and completely accurate.

I have no ax to grind with the BBB, but I do find it most unfortunate that many consumers somehow believe (incorrectly) that the BBB actually has any legal authority or power. In truth, they simply do not.

Sure, the worst offending BBB members may be removed when enough people manage to climb the high BBB hurdles and jump through all the BBB hoops in order to formally file complaints, which may then be recorded as a "statistic". There is no actual problem resolution in the mere collection of numbers.

You are entitled to a differing viewpoint, but I personally have no use for an entity which has no legal authority yet which nonetheless brandishes a torch logo suggesting that they are anything more than a "club" with dues paying members and very forgiving membership rules, and which collects some random statistics. I intend no disrespect to you personally, but frankly the only people who ever seem to disagree with this blunt assessment of the BBB are actually commercial BBB members themselves!

I paid $800.00 for the sale or rental of a timeshare in Cancun Avalon Resorts. You can vacation in Acapulco, Cancun or Panama. It is going to be a year now that I was suckered into this deal. I was told that it would be sold within 3 months or rented. I never recieve any phonecalls, they continue to tell me that they are WORKING AGGRESSIVELY ON IT. There is no help whatsoever and they are just looking to get your money. Betsy

You folks need to contact the Federal Trade Commission in your state and file a complaint. I did so last week, but like anything else, the squeaky wheel gets the most grease. The more conplaints the more they, (FTC) will be unable to overlook them. I urge anyone who has been ripped off to file the form on the computer. I found their link in the States Attorney Generals website. Don't hesitate, the longer you wait the more people they will be able to rip off.

irvinr2 wrote:

johnc649 wrote:

Yep, I am interested! I am becoming increasingly confident that they are a big scam outfit and I think they survive because no one follows up! Trouble is when chased, these type of people can just rename themselves and start all over again. I also think that the people who say they have rented and/or sold are probably working for Omega. They'd have to be pretty stupid not to check the websites to check what is being said about them........that's what keeps them ahead of the game I guess.

WHY NOT POLL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE VENTED THEIR FRUSTRATIONS ON THIS SITE AND SEE IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO GET ON BOARD WITH YOU? i THINK THAT IIF YOU CAN CONTACT THEM ONE-ON-ONE IT WOULD KEEP OMEGA FROM GETTING WISE UNTIL AFTER THE LAWYERS ARE INVOLVED. THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE ABLE TO FIND OUT WHO'S INVOLVED. AT THE VERY LEAST, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO INFORM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

Thanks for all the frank responses here. Omega has been calling me for seveal days. Very persistant I must ad. Thanks to your frustration...I now am assured my reservations are true. Good Luck. TW