May 02, 2007

phill12 wrote:
I would have to disagree with you on selling like a house idea.

Selling a timeshare unit is nothing like selling a house!

If it is a good timeshare resort and you want to get rid of it then you might get someone to just take over payments for the cost of transfers and escrow.

You might get someone to take over payments and also give you some cash if your lucky! That is if you have a nice resort good for trading!

People buy a timeshare with cash or small loan on resale market for use or trade. They know they are buying something that except for use or trade is most likely going to lose money.

You might be right and I might be wrong but have never seen anyone buy unit when owners still do not own it,just to much hassle.

Golly, phill12,

With the housing market as it is, buying a house is getting more and more like buying a timeshare. The basics are the same, but a loss on a housing purchase is now more common.

The difference is that, because timeshares are such a relatively small expense, people tend not to do the due diligence they would with a house. They may skip excrow and title insurance. they certainly don't inspect or look to paying off the property's loan in excrow. They even may pay an agent in advance, unheard of in home purchases.

I know I got my money's worth in my timeshare. Now, I look forward to really good deals shopping in the resale market, but I only buy where I would love to stay. Exchanges are nice. I use II, and have been very happy with their service. But they are the icing on the cake, not the cake itself.

Would I use Redweek to buy or sell? Absolutely.


Carrie S.
May 03, 2007

I have certainly learned quite a bit from reading this message forum;I'm a neophite with timeshare renting, selling, etc. Basically, I obtained a red-floating week from my elderly aunt. I wanted to help her out and she was happy it went to a family member, she loved the 10 plus years she used it. I own it,and haven't used it like I thought I would. There is no urgency to sell, I can just hang on to also. I'm just researching what is involved in the resale of a TS.

Just a quick question about "value", my understanding is that a red-floating week is a good thing, correct? And, does the "home" resort factor in the value/desirability or not? It's a resort in the Bahamas.

I'd be interested in any input, comments and thoughts!


Marcia J.
May 03, 2007

marciaj12 wrote:
I have certainly learned quite a bit from reading this message forum;I'm a neophite with timeshare renting, selling, etc. Basically, I obtained a red-floating week from my elderly aunt. I wanted to help her out and she was happy it went to a family member, she loved the 10 plus years she used it. I own it,and haven't used it like I thought I would. There is no urgency to sell, I can just hang on to also. I'm just researching what is involved in the resale of a TS.

Just a quick question about "value", my understanding is that a red-floating week is a good thing, correct? And, does the "home" resort factor in the value/desirability or not? It's a resort in the Bahamas.

I'd be interested in any input, comments and thoughts!

The quality of the "home resort", the size of the unit, the season in which you are able to reserve weeks, and your own diligence in reserving a high-demand week at the earliest possible date (if you want to rent it out or use it), are key factors in determining the "value" of what you own. The amount of the annual maintenance fees, and any pending Special Assessments are also factors that impact upon success in selling a timeshare week at a good price.

Knowledgeable owners will tell you that there are many shades of "red" ranging from light pink to bright red. Of course this is nowhere in writing. You figure it out through experience, your own and others. Another factor is whether or not the resort has a special rating such as Gold Crown or Silver Crown by RCI, or 5* with Interval International. And keep in mind that even a "bright red" week at a "rated" resort may not sell well if it is in an area where there is a glut of timeshares for sale e.g. Orlando.

You can get an idea of the value of your week by reading reviews of the resort here on Redweek.com and at the Timeshare Users Group www.tug2.net ($15. membership fee--worth every penny of it!) and sometimes at www.tripadvisor.com. . See what price is listed in owner ads for a comparable week--rental and sale. Go to www.Ebay.com and run a search for your resort. Add it to your "favorites" and request Email notification whenever a week at the resort is listed for sale on Ebay.See if the San Francisco Exchange Company will accept a week from your resort for exchanging. They accept deposits only for higher quality resorts and weeks.

You should also run a Google search for complaints about your resort. Type in "Resort XYZ complaints" and see what comes up. Some resorts in the Bahamas have had severe hurricane damage, have been mismanaged, or are in serious need of refurbishment.

If you find the costs involved in ownership (annual maintenance fees, Special assessments) to be too burdensome, and you do not wish to invest time and energy into trying to sell it yourself, you could check www.donateforacause.com to see if they would be willing to accept it as a charitable contribution. There's a long list on their web site of weeks they will not accept. If you find your resort on the list, that's a pretty good indication that your week has little or no value. You would be lucky to find someone to "take it off your hands" for free. I hope that's not the case.

Just keep in mind: NEVER PAY AN UPFRONT FEE to any company to list your week with them. It's fine, however, to pay the minimal fees charged by web sites like Redweek.com and the Timeshare Users Group www.tug2.net and MyResortNetwok.com. where you place your own ads.

If you wish to mention the name of the resort here, you may get better feedback. (I sure hope it's not Club Land'or on Paradise Island!!!).


Marie M.

Last edited by msmendy on May 03, 2007 05:30 PM

May 04, 2007

jayjay wrote:
Also, Redweek offers a closing company:

Timeshare Resale Escrow Service RedWeek.com now offers a secure and convenient third-party handling service to members participating in a timeshare resale transaction. Using First American Title Insurance Co., the leading timeshare escrow company, RedWeek.com members can transact timeshare resale agreements with other members, without security concerns that may be associated with private transactions.

Costs (in $USD): $300.00 escrow closing service in the United States. $300.00 title insurance for properties in California, Nevada, Arizona, Hawaii, and Florida. For cost of title insurance in other locations, please contact First American Title Insurance Co. $495.00 escrow closing service outside of the United States, no title insurance option available. NOTE: Prices do not include the cost of the resort's transfer fee or recording fees.

If the timeshare property is located in a state that requires an attorney in deed preparation (FL, GA, IL, KY, LA, MD, MA, MI, NJ, NY, NC, OH, OR, SC, TX, VA, WA, DC, WV), First American Title will make these arrangements, but applicable attorney fees will be assessed in addition to the above costs. The state's requirement for attorney participation may lead to a longer closing timeframe. Please ask First American Title for a cost and time estimate.

Steps: The buyer and seller come to an agreement on a purchase price and terms. The seller completes all forms through First American's online application process. First American sends a confirmation e-mail to the buyer, along with a link to the agreement where the buyer will complete their information and make a down payment. First American Title collects and prepares the deed, then mails all closing information to the buyer and the seller. Both parties fill out the paperwork individually and return to First American Title. The buyer should send their remaining payment at this time. First American Title confirms the deed has been recorded, and disburses funds to the seller, notifies the HOA of the closing, and provides the buyer with a title policy. The buyer will receive the original deed directly from the county. Open an Order: Get started with the online application process now.

If you prefer to use paper forms and mail or fax to First American Title, they are included below. Each are to be completed by the seller.

Sales/Purchase Information Sheet Availability of Occupancy Certification Credit Card Authorization if paying by credit card. First American Title Insurance Co.'s Contact Information: Resale Department Phone: 866-639-9203 (from U.S. only); 702-792-6863 (outside U.S.) Fax: 702-562-9760 E-mail First American Title

Why First American Title Insurance Co.? First American Title Insurance Co.'s National Vacation Ownership Division (NVOD) is a part of the First American Corporation, a Fortune 500 Company that has been in existence over 100 years. Our specially trained staff is just one of the many reasons First American Title Insurance Co. is an innovator in the vacation ownership industry. We understand the unique needs of the timeshare/fractional customer.

First American Title Insurance Co. acts as escrow holder and orchestrates obtaining signatures for all closing documents, collecting payment from the buyer, preparing the deed, coordinating the transfer with the resort's Home Owners Association (HOA), collecting and disbursing funds between the buyer and seller. You can have peace of mind knowing that your monies will be held in trust by First American Title Insurance Co.'s National Vacation Ownership Division.

Do you pay an upfront fee to open Escrow that will be applied to the above mentioned costs? Thanks


Christine S.
May 04, 2007

ken1193 wrote:
bettyp32 stated, in pertinent part:

>> I have been talking about selling my TS which in Daytona, now I really need to do somthing about it. <<

In my own experience, Daytona timeshares sell slowly and for very low prices (often just a few hundred dollars). Notable exceptions are Race Week (week 7) and Bike Week (week 9) and another "Biketoberfest" week (whose number I don't know offhand). I'm not sure why this is so, but it may be related to lots of relatively inexpensive motel rates in the area and/or a lot of very old timeshare facilities in the area, most of them converted motels. In short, I suggest that you don't place your price (or your expectations) too high if you really and truly want to "move" the product.

Re: >> Has anyone actually listed & sold their TS using this site? & has anyone actually rented their TS using this site <<

Sure. This site is as good as any for selling OR renting, in my personal opinion and experience. Advertising rates are certainly not dirt cheap, but worth the expense if you need / want to DO something with an unwanted timeshare, as is apparently your situation. Good luck.

Thank you for your responses, actually I have my ts for Biketoberfest which is week 42, & the reason why we purchased it is because the hotels/motels raise the weekly rates, normal amt w/be 60/80.00 for 1 room, with nothing else....during that week it went for over 100.00 a nite...got tired of getting ripped off... no working ac, no fridge .(those rates were from 5 yrs ago) I have no idea what they are going for now. Its at a really nice place so I am hoping for some good things. I also am able to have the resort rent it too, for a fee of course. But again, thank you for your responses.


Sam S.
May 07, 2007

carries25 wrote:
I am one of those people who surf Redweek, but haven't yet joined. I was looking for a place to rent a timeshare, and so far, this site is quite interesting and I have learned a lot.

Here's the big question. Are the weekly amounts negotiable or not? How do I go about this?

Hi Carries25;

I'm a Redweek member and an owner of 3 Marriott timeshare weeks at a resort in Hilton Head, SC. I own in the Gold season (Spring/Fall), in my opinion the best time of the year at HH (no humidity to speak of and not terribly hot). My weeks are oceanside, not oceanfront.

I've rented two of my three timeshare weeks (all I listed) through Redweek the past two summers as we had no time to use all of them. I had no trouble renting them, but as JayJay says, I charged a reasonable amount ($1500. / week this year). My weeks were reserved over Memorial Day.

As to whether I'd negotiate - maybe, but only if I really wanted to rent them badly - ie - if I would lose the use of the week without renting. But in all my cases those who contacted me were willing to pay what I asked - they did not offer lower amounts. Would I have accepted a lower offer - maybe, but in these cases likely not, as my asking price (at the time I had them listed) was $500. lower per week than the others listed for the same week. Hope this info is what you wanted.


Kathi L.
May 07, 2007

teresaw57 wrote:
I am wanting to sell my Timeshare because I don't use it like I thought I would. I am not trying to make ANY money off of it, I just need to get out from under the payment. I would even be interested in someone taking over the payments and putting it in their name. Help Please...
You don't say where your TS is located, or what the season (week) is, or what type unit it is (lockoff, 1 bdrm, 2 bdrm), whether TS is a floating week yearly, etc. If you provide some info, maybe someone could respond better.


Kathi L.
May 07, 2007

bettyp32 wrote:
I have been talking about selling my TS which in Daytona, now I really need to do somthing about it. I have some questions, that maybe someone can answer for me... Has anyone actually listed & sold their TS using this site? & has anyone actually rented their TS using this site. I have already spent money trying to do both, & am considering using this site as a means. Can anyone out there answer these questions? Thanks

Yes, I've rented two of my three TS weeks (2 bdrm; location - Hilton Head, SC; Marriott property; Gold season) the past two years on Redweek, in all 4 cases getting just what I asked for the weeks.


Kathi L.
May 07, 2007

kathi32 [Yes, I've rented two of my three TS weeks (2 bdrm; location - Hilton Head, SC; Marriott property; Gold season) the past two years on Redweek, in all 4 cases getting just what I asked for the weeks.[/Q]

Thanks, kathi32,

I am an original owner at the Marriott Desert Springs Villas I, 2br lockout. It's really peaches.

I found some TS for sale and rent at locations I want. Of course, while I was researching these places, the resales sold, and rentals rented. So now I am watching these locations, waiting for new listings to come up. I hope this answers bettyp32's question.

Carrie, here on RedWeek.com you can set it up to be notified when new postings are added for whatever timeshare or area you are looking for. Just click on the "Be notified of new postings » " link in the upper right corner of any timeshare's main page. Then you can manage the notifications in Your Account information.

Hope that helps.

Marty


Carrie S.

Last edited by marty8084 on May 07, 2007 09:21 PM

May 07, 2007

christines79 wrote:
jayjay wrote:
Also, Redweek offers a closing company:

Timeshare Resale Escrow Service RedWeek.com now offers a secure and convenient third-party handling service to members participating in a timeshare resale transaction. Using First American Title Insurance Co., the leading timeshare escrow company, RedWeek.com members can transact timeshare resale agreements with other members, without security concerns that may be associated with private transactions.

Costs (in $USD): $300.00 escrow closing service in the United States. $300.00 title insurance for properties in California, Nevada, Arizona, Hawaii, and Florida. For cost of title insurance in other locations, please contact First American Title Insurance Co. $495.00 escrow closing service outside of the United States, no title insurance option available. NOTE: Prices do not include the cost of the resort's transfer fee or recording fees.

If the timeshare property is located in a state that requires an attorney in deed preparation (FL, GA, IL, KY, LA, MD, MA, MI, NJ, NY, NC, OH, OR, SC, TX, VA, WA, DC, WV), First American Title will make these arrangements, but applicable attorney fees will be assessed in addition to the above costs. The state's requirement for attorney participation may lead to a longer closing timeframe. Please ask First American Title for a cost and time estimate.

Steps: The buyer and seller come to an agreement on a purchase price and terms. The seller completes all forms through First American's online application process. First American sends a confirmation e-mail to the buyer, along with a link to the agreement where the buyer will complete their information and make a down payment. First American Title collects and prepares the deed, then mails all closing information to the buyer and the seller. Both parties fill out the paperwork individually and return to First American Title. The buyer should send their remaining payment at this time. First American Title confirms the deed has been recorded, and disburses funds to the seller, notifies the HOA of the closing, and provides the buyer with a title policy. The buyer will receive the original deed directly from the county. Open an Order: Get started with the online application process now.

If you prefer to use paper forms and mail or fax to First American Title, they are included below. Each are to be completed by the seller.

Sales/Purchase Information Sheet Availability of Occupancy Certification Credit Card Authorization if paying by credit card. First American Title Insurance Co.'s Contact Information: Resale Department Phone: 866-639-9203 (from U.S. only); 702-792-6863 (outside U.S.) Fax: 702-562-9760 E-mail First American Title

Why First American Title Insurance Co.? First American Title Insurance Co.'s National Vacation Ownership Division (NVOD) is a part of the First American Corporation, a Fortune 500 Company that has been in existence over 100 years. Our specially trained staff is just one of the many reasons First American Title Insurance Co. is an innovator in the vacation ownership industry. We understand the unique needs of the timeshare/fractional customer.

First American Title Insurance Co. acts as escrow holder and orchestrates obtaining signatures for all closing documents, collecting payment from the buyer, preparing the deed, coordinating the transfer with the resort's Home Owners Association (HOA), collecting and disbursing funds between the buyer and seller. You can have peace of mind knowing that your monies will be held in trust by First American Title Insurance Co.'s National Vacation Ownership Division.

Do you pay an upfront fee to open Escrow that will be applied to the above mentioned costs? Thanks

To be honest, I don't know if they charge an upfront fee or not. You can definitely email First American at vacationfirst@firstam.com or give them a call at 866-639-9203.

Thanks, Marty


Marty F
May 08, 2007

Hi, has anyone heard of a company called ETOO? selling timeshare


Kathy F.
May 08, 2007

kathyf59 wrote:
Hi, has anyone heard of a company called ETOO? selling timeshare

I am familiar with ETOO.


Jay K.
May 10, 2007

timesharejudi wrote:
kathyf59 wrote:
Hi, has anyone heard of a company called ETOO? selling timeshare

I am familiar with ETOO.

Thanks, wold you recomend them for seling timeshare? I have a place in Cyprus


Kathy F.
May 10, 2007

carries25 wrote:
So now I am watching these locations, waiting for new listings to come up. I hope this answers bettyp32's question.

Carrie, here on RedWeek.com you can set it up to be notified when new postings are added for whatever timeshare or area you are looking for. Just click on the "Be notified of new postings » " link in the upper right corner of any timeshare's main page. Then you can manage the notifications in Your Account information. Hope that helps. Marty

Thanks, Marty. I saw that. BTW, the auto log-in doesn't work for me, although it works for me at many other sites.


Carrie S.
May 11, 2007

carries25 wrote:
carries25 wrote:
So now I am watching these locations, waiting for new listings to come up. I hope this answers bettyp32's question.

Carrie, here on RedWeek.com you can set it up to be notified when new postings are added for whatever timeshare or area you are looking for. Just click on the "Be notified of new postings » " link in the upper right corner of any timeshare's main page. Then you can manage the notifications in Your Account information. Hope that helps. Marty

Thanks, Marty. I saw that. BTW, the auto log-in doesn't work for me, although it works for me at many other sites.

Hmm, make sure that the box "log me in automatically" is checked and that you have cookies enabled. If you aren't logging off on your own you shouldn't have to log in each time if the above things are set up.

Thanks, Marty


Marty F
May 12, 2007

Thanks, will try again. It works.


Carrie S.

Last edited by carries25 on May 12, 2007 12:08 AM

May 12, 2007

kathyf59 wrote:
timesharejudi wrote:
kathyf59 wrote:
Hi, has anyone heard of a company called ETOO? selling timeshare

I am familiar with ETOO.

Thanks, wold you recomend them for seling timeshare? I have a place in Cyprus
Go to http://www.scambusters.gb.com/ That will answer your question.


Jay K.
May 12, 2007

timesharejudi wrote:
kathyf59 wrote:
timesharejudi wrote:
kathyf59 wrote:
Hi, has anyone heard of a company called ETOO? selling timeshare

I am familiar with ETOO.

Thanks, wold you recomend them for seling timeshare? I have a place in Cyprus
Go to http://www.scambusters.gb.com/ That will answer your question.
THANKS! answered my question in full!!


Kathy F.
May 23, 2007

I NEVER THINK THAT ONE DAY I WILL SELL MY TIME SHARE BUT I NEED MONEY TO SUPPORT MY FAMILY


Samir M.
May 23, 2007

It's been difficult for me to sell my ts too. It was the lowest priced 2 bedroom and for my last 2 weeks of RW membership, I lowered the price again.


April J.

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