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By Susan A.

Diamond Resorts reduces owner benefits again!

Although there may be other good candidates for the Board, if we concentrate our efforts on the same two people, they may have a chance of winnings. I voted for Annmarie Calvert-Antoye and Mark Pugatch. If you have not yet voted, please consider voting for them as well. It's worth a try.

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7 years ago
Sep 11, 2012

By Janet C.

Same thing happened to me at Mystic Dunes. Their deceptive sales practices knows no bounds. This is surely a violation of Florida's fair practices act?

michaeld414 wrote:
It is important to keep the pressure up on Diamond, and to inform those who might be sucked into their scams... They will continue to use their deceptive sales tactics, their failure to disclose vital information about these facilities as well as the structure of how they work "availability vs the number of members... It was hidden from us that there were any actual "Deeded Owners" other than a points system... Had I known that there were other forms of ownership, we would have walked away... We were assured that Sunterra / Diamond as they were merging owned the entire facility outright, and there were no other entities... That the number of actual points members that could be sold were limited to the number of units multiplied by the weeks available, and that was set by Hawaiian Real Estate Law... In my opinion DRI is a dishonest organization...

Now, How about a Lawsuit update David

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7 years ago
Oct 12, 2012

By Susan A.

A few days after I posted this message regarding the upcoming Board elections, the message disappeared and my alerts were turned off. I asked Redweek to investigate and the message was restored but it was too late for the elections. I've been wondering why this previously active thread has become so quiet. Perhaps the tampering has been more widespread. Has anyone else had problems with messages or alerts?

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7 years ago
Nov 01, 2012

By Michael D.

susana277 wrote:
A few days after I posted this message regarding the upcoming Board elections, the message disappeared and my alerts were turned off. I asked Redweek to investigate and the message was restored but it was too late for the elections. I've been wondering why this previously active thread has become so quiet. Perhaps the tampering has been more widespread. Has anyone else had problems with messages or alerts?

It is curious why this topic is quiet, but they have started others, and DRI operatives have invested them as well... They set out to tell those who might read them how great DRI is and how easy it was to reserve the best place, and how wonderful it was... I try to keep up and challenge those who constantly advocate on DRI's behalf, but like in politics these days the Truth & Facts DO NOT MATTER... The "Dumb ing Down of Society" is what I call it, so Corporate Giants can say and do anything in their quest for profits...

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7 years ago
Nov 05, 2012

By Charles S.

Michael, that's why I am waiting for that lawsuit so that everyone has their day in court and fact can be separated from fiction.

It may be that people are just plain tired of all the mess.

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7 years ago
Nov 05, 2012

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By Tim B.

forum testing....

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7 years ago
Nov 05, 2012

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By Michael D.

charless345 wrote:
Michael, that's why I am waiting for that lawsuit so that everyone has their day in court and fact can be separated from fiction.

It may be that people are just plain tired of all the mess.

The way Civil Court cases go, DRI can challenge and appeal at each phase of the case... Each phase can take several years to process, and DRI will make sure they are very slow... This case could talk 10 Years to see the light of an actual court room... You get only the Justice you can afford to pay for in Civil Court... I know, I have been there against a very deep pocket celebrity, and simple cases can last like the energizer bunny

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7 years ago
Nov 05, 2012

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By Susan A.

Or it could be that a lot of unhappy, fed-up people have have accepted DRI's offer to let them out of their membership (no return of monies of course) in exchange for signing the big gag order.

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7 years ago
Nov 07, 2012

By Charles S.

susana277 wrote:
Or it could be that a lot of unhappy, fed-up people have have accepted DRI's offer to let them out of their membership (no return of monies of course) in exchange for signing the big gag order.

So DRI offered outs to the Poipu Owners?

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7 years ago
Nov 07, 2012

By Michael D.

charless345 wrote:
susana277 wrote:
Or it could be that a lot of unhappy, fed-up people have have accepted DRI's offer to let them out of their membership (no return of monies of course) in exchange for signing the big gag order.

So DRI offered outs to the Poipu Owners?

Yes they did... I am not happy to say this but we took an out... After paying upwards of $ 54,000 cash for 31,000 points, we walked away from our membership... The gag agreement is about the specifics of our deal, but does not stop me from talking about the points system in general or DRI's integrity unrelated to our deal... The whole points system is a bigger scam than a Ponzi Scheme... They are selling air, they have sold far beyond their capacity to accommodate the members.. They give special deals to folks they want to sell new memberships too, at a rate far cheaper than the members pay in annual per day maintenance fee's.. Screw the members, they want new membership fee's and could care less about you and your old membership... Of course all of this is my opinion, but its bases on my experiences...

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7 years ago
Nov 07, 2012

By Charles S.

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michaeld414 wrote:
charless345 wrote:
susana277 wrote:
Or it could be that a lot of unhappy, fed-up people have have accepted DRI's offer to let them out of their membership (no return of monies of course) in exchange for signing the big gag order.

So DRI offered outs to the Poipu Owners?

Yes they did... I am not happy to say this but we took an out... After paying upwards of $ 54,000 cash for 31,000 points, we walked away from our membership... The gag agreement is about the specifics of our deal, but does not stop me from talking about the points system in general or DRI's integrity unrelated to our deal... The whole points system is a bigger scam than a Ponzi Scheme... They are selling air, they have sold far beyond their capacity to accommodate the members.. They give special deals to folks they want to sell new memberships too, at a rate far cheaper than the members pay in annual per day maintenance fee's.. Screw the members, they want new membership fee's and could care less about you and your old membership... Of course all of this is my opinion, but its bases on my experiences...

I could see why you have your opinion if you were treated this way. This has not been my experience. I will say that when DRI has those specials with their units and I see them for less than maintenance fees, it gets my attention, but we can do that as well to defray our maintenance fees as well and I have done that.

I don't believe it's a Ponzi scheme though. There are some guidelines that the developers have to follow. Now that Marriott has started their points program, I have really come to have a better understanding of the guidelines. DRI's are quite similar. Marriott's points are a whole lot more expensive than DRI's and I often stay at Marriott properties using my DRI points.

In any case I am eagerly but patiently waiting for the results of the lawsuit. I believe it has the potential to be most interesting.

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7 years ago
Nov 08, 2012

By Susan A.

The offer I got to terminate my membership includes the following gag order: " Owner agrees not to make any statements, written or verbal, or cause or encourage others to make any staements, written or verbal, that defame, disparage or in any way criticize the personal or business reputation, practices or conduct of Diamond or Association, its employees, directors and officers. Owner acknowledges and agrees that this prohibition extends to statements, written or verbal, made to anyone, including but not limited to, the news media, investors, potential investors, any board of directors or advisory board of directors, industry analysts, competitors, strategic partners, vendors, employees (past and present) and clients."

Last edit by susana277 on Nov 08, 2012 10:30 AM.

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7 years ago
Nov 08, 2012

By Charles S.

susana277 wrote:
The offer I got to terminate my membership includes the following gag order: " Owner agrees not to make any statements, written or verbal, or cause or encourage others to make any staements, written or verbal, that defame, disparage or in any way criticize the personal or business reputation, practices or conduct of Diamond or Association, its employees, directors and officers. Owner acknowledges and agrees that this prohibition extends to statements, written or verbal, made to anyone, including but not limited to, the news media, investors, potential investors, any board of directors or advisory board of directors, industry analysts, competitors, strategic partners, vendors, employees (past and present) and clients."

This is a pretty comprehensive gag order. It sounds like DRI does not want you to even THINK about them, never mind talk about them.

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7 years ago
Nov 08, 2012

By Sheri K.

Hi Michael- If your points were paid for and your maintenance fees up to date, you could always walk away from your membership with DRI. It's written in their handbook that termination happens when you quit. The only reason they could come after you would be for unpaid loan(s).

The gag requirement sounds manipulative on their part when it is your legal right to walk away.

Last edit by sherik43 on Nov 08, 2012 02:15 PM.

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7 years ago
Nov 08, 2012

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