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I did find a law firm that has successfully sued Festiva with a class action suit and they are willing to talk to us. I guess there are a bunch more - so there maybe another class action suit. I sure hope so. I paid good money for zero results, and the customer service people are trained in evasive actions. Good thing I have recordings, documentations and even a signed contract where the salesman hand wrote in that Festiva WOULD rent out pour points for us if we couldn't use them (I am military and I was deployed)....he lied...they lied...I am sick of being lied to. I just want someone in this industry to be real and take ownership of what they are-