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Getting rid of your timeshare

donp196 wrote:
DRK ..... Ihave absolutely no problem with you charging a fee for your services if they are legit. I know that there are expenses involved with the process. i do have two major issues that I would like you to address. The first is that you claim to hold the deeds for three years without paying any maintenance fees to the HOA. That means that the other owners get stuck paying additional money to cover those costs. I could not do that. I have a conscience that wouldn't allow me to do something like that. The second issue is that you tell everyone that they can deduct $ 5,000.00 for contributing to a charity based on giving up their timesahres. I know for a fact that this is not true in this case. The IRS will only let you take the deduction for the actual amount that the timeshare was sold for if it sold at all. They do the same for people who donate their vehicles. Anyone who would be niave enough to try to take a $ 5,000.00 write off is just asking to get nailed by the IRS. You can put up all the smoke and mirrors you want but that is the law.

Exactly right ..... DRK is out of here :o) !

R P.

I have no knowledge of the laws of timeshare selling, donations, or any other ways to rid yourself of a timeshare. I have used CHT and have had no problems with anyone hounding me about it. I am completely happy with what they did for me. It was the only sane way I could get rid of it.

Larry L.

larry796 wrote:
I have no knowledge of the laws of timeshare selling, donations, or any other ways to rid yourself of a timeshare. I have used CHT and have had no problems with anyone hounding me about it. I am completely happy with what they did for me. It was the only sane way I could get rid of it.

Would you have anymore detail to share? Duration it took and breakdown of costs etc? Im considering using this method and would track the progress. May help other in deciding.

Gary M.

I am no shill, I have used their program and it worked for me. I got duped by a timeshare sales presentation and tried every avenue to get rid of it to no avail. Timeshare pressure sales is a dirty racket and I have no qualms getting out from under it in any way possible. If you haven't tried it don't knock it!

Larry L.

garym480 wrote:
larry796 wrote:
I have no knowledge of the laws of timeshare selling, donations, or any other ways to rid yourself of a timeshare. I have used CHT and have had no problems with anyone hounding me about it. I am completely happy with what they did for me. It was the only sane way I could get rid of it.
Would you have anymore detail to share? Duration it took and breakdown of costs etc? Im considering using this method and would track the progress. May help other in deciding.

Go to their webpage .... DUH! Their charity scam is not going to be advertised on Redweek's forums.

R P.

Last edited by jayjay on Feb 15, 2012 08:50 AM

larry796 wrote:
I am no shill, I have used their program and it worked for me. I got duped by a timeshare sales presentation and tried every avenue to get rid of it to no avail. Timeshare pressure sales is a dirty racket and I have no qualms getting out from under it in any way possible. If you haven't tried it don't knock it!

Yeah, the salesperson kidnapped you, then hogtied you and forced you to sign on the dotted line .... yeah right.

R P.

larry796 wrote:
I am no shill, I have used their program and it worked for me. I got duped by a timeshare sales presentation and tried every avenue to get rid of it to no avail. Timeshare pressure sales is a dirty racket and I have no qualms getting out from under it in any way possible. If you haven't tried it don't knock it!

larry769- I agree. Theres a time that all owners will look for a way out. I enjoyed mine up until last year and realized I couldnt trade for nice places due to the resorts offering the weeks to just anyone. and mine is suppose to be a prime resort (so I was told). Im offering it for $1, paying all costs and all I get are robo responses. Anyway, can you say how long it took you to complete your transaction?

Gary M.

I'm not certain, but I believe it took around 9 months to get the title transfered to CHT. After that was done I have heard nothing from anyone. If CHT was scamming people don't you think there would be lots of complaints. The only ones complaining are the ones who think they know something, and they don't..

Larry L.

larry796 wrote:
I'm not certain, but I believe it took around 9 months to get the title transfered to CHT. After that was done I have heard nothing from anyone. If CHT was scamming people don't you think there would be lots of complaints. The only ones complaining are the ones who think they know something, and they don't..

An example of ockham's razor? Broken own the question I have is 1) legally divest myself of my timeshare and 2) deal with the donation/deduction aspect. I dont care about the deduction myself and Id recommend others didnt weight it as much either as it cloud the decision making. The first has already been answered in this forum. Im considering several donation avenues but It becomes a cost vs long term ROI and there needs to be due diligence with any of these vendors. Ive done that with all the ones Ive looked at and it falls in place easily. 9 months though, seems like a long time.

Gary M.

May I ask a question, please.....What does CHT stand for? Is it a charity. I live in Canada so a tax deduction would not apply to me. What do they charge and how can then be contacted? Thank you.

Beverly C L.

beverlycl wrote:
May I ask a question, please.....What does CHT stand for? Is it a charity. I live in Canada so a tax deduction would not apply to me. What do they charge and how can then be contacted? Thank you.

First Id like you to know that I am not recommending CHT (Community Health Training) as I havent pulled the trigger commiting to anyone yet. They are just one of the charities Im considering. Theres many out there if you know where to look. CHT just has a unique business model w/o the usual BS and has been explained exhaustively in this forum and on the web. Do your searches. Depending on how savvy you are with internet research, there a lot more out there on CHT (and others) that support what they expound.

Gary M.

I decided to go ahead and try CHT. I need to make a decision due to other constraints but theirs seems to be the most straight forward process. I took into account all thats been said previously both good and bad about them and formed some personal views on each. Paranoia and a good amount of skepticism is always good when you do something youve never done before. The best I could do is look at each of the issues and try and mitigate the bad ones the best I could. I derived a lot of good information on Redweek about what to look out for, have tried all the obvious alternatives and a few not so apparent. It came down to what I ultimately want with an ROI I can live with. I intend to update my progress over the next several months, answering questions and throwing in some commentary along the way. Im seeing some parallels with getting rid of a TS by whatever means and things we all face in everyday life, but never notice. No one has to read my views/drival (take your pick, I dont care), just turn the channel or stay tuned. To be crystal clear, my intent isnt to promote CHT, I have no affiliation with them and have proven it to authoritative parties and can do the same to those that are still the skeptics. Theres very little 'actual' info out there on success stories, a lot on the ones that werent. Maybe by this effort I hope to provide one of the good ones. Make no mistake. I enjoyed the TS and went into it with both eyes open. Its a fabulous place. But wisdom evolves from experience and its time to move on.

Gary M.

I assume this only works for fixed week timeshares at a specific resort ? I got conned into buying points with Diamond resorts . Already called them & they refused to accept the deed back. so the resort I signed up at has no interest in the points ?

James M.

jamesm1316 wrote:
I assume this only works for fixed week timeshares at a specific resort ? I got conned into buying points with Diamond resorts . Already called them & they refused to accept the deed back. so the resort I signed up at has no interest in the points ?

You know I never looked into that as mine has a deed with a floating week bought a few years before point became the vogue. I may have read where theres some who allow point week donations but cant remember. Never hurts to ask.

Gary M.

garym480 wrote:
I decided to go ahead and try CHT. I need to make a decision due to other constraints but theirs seems to be the most straight forward process. I took into account all thats been said previously both good and bad about them and formed some personal views on each. Paranoia and a good amount of skepticism is always good when you do something youve never done before. The best I could do is look at each of the issues and try and mitigate the bad ones the best I could. I derived a lot of good information on Redweek about what to look out for, have tried all the obvious alternatives and a few not so apparent. It came down to what I ultimately want with an ROI I can live with. I intend to update my progress over the next several months, answering questions and throwing in some commentary along the way. Im seeing some parallels with getting rid of a TS by whatever means and things we all face in everyday life, but never notice. No one has to read my views/drival (take your pick, I dont care), just turn the channel or stay tuned. To be crystal clear, my intent isnt to promote CHT, I have no affiliation with them and have proven it to authoritative parties and can do the same to those that are still the skeptics. Theres very little 'actual' info out there on success stories, a lot on the ones that werent. Maybe by this effort I hope to provide one of the good ones. Make no mistake. I enjoyed the TS and went into it with both eyes open. Its a fabulous place. But wisdom evolves from experience and its time to move on.

DRK's charity is not even a charity .... I checked out Charity Navigtor and his Nevada charity is not even listed:

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.alpha&ltr=C

R P.

Last edited by jayjay on Feb 20, 2012 08:08 AM

jayjay wrote:
garym480 wrote:
I decided to go ahead and try CHT. I need to make a decision due to other constraints but theirs seems to be the most straight forward process. I took into account all thats been said previously both good and bad about them and formed some personal views on each. Paranoia and a good amount of skepticism is always good when you do something youve never done before. The best I could do is look at each of the issues and try and mitigate the bad ones the best I could. I derived a lot of good information on Redweek about what to look out for, have tried all the obvious alternatives and a few not so apparent. It came down to what I ultimately want with an ROI I can live with. I intend to update my progress over the next several months, answering questions and throwing in some commentary along the way. Im seeing some parallels with getting rid of a TS by whatever means and things we all face in everyday life, but never notice. No one has to read my views/drival (take your pick, I dont care), just turn the channel or stay tuned. To be crystal clear, my intent isnt to promote CHT, I have no affiliation with them and have proven it to authoritative parties and can do the same to those that are still the skeptics. Theres very little 'actual' info out there on success stories, a lot on the ones that werent. Maybe by this effort I hope to provide one of the good ones. Make no mistake. I enjoyed the TS and went into it with both eyes open. Its a fabulous place. But wisdom evolves from experience and its time to move on.
DRK's charity is not even a charity .... I checked out Charity Navigtor and his Nevada charity is not even listed:
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.alpha&ltr=C

Of course, DRK's charity is not a legitimate organization, we have tried to warn owners about his scam, however, too many folks fall for it and seem to be of the same "ILK" as DRK. Dishonest and lacking integrity!!!

Tam M.

jayjay wrote:
DRK's charity is not even a charity .... I checked out Charity Navigtor and his Nevada charity is not even listed:
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.alpha&ltr=C

I doubt you and I will have much of a repartee’ as you tend to insult forum members you don’t agree with. I wont go into the long discourse you had with DRK14, nor as Ive said, am I here to promote his service. The need to warn me is quite meritless and unnecessary; your researching skills miss important facts and advice, repetitive. With your vast knowledge of timeshare consumerism I would hope you could try help those of us that need a real answer and not the time worn ‘put an ad in Redweek or TUGs’. A bit of Bayesian logic applied liberally would help your subjective avatar appear a bit more open minded and hopefully, could help you to become part of the solution, rather than the problem. It takes more than a few mouse clicks to understand why charitynavigator doesnt list CHT as a charity, Id suggest that you follow the money instead.

Gary M.

garym480 wrote:
jayjay wrote:
DRK's charity is not even a charity .... I checked out Charity Navigtor and his Nevada charity is not even listed:
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.alpha&ltr=C
I doubt you and I will have much of a repartee’ as you tend to insult forum members you don’t agree with. I wont go into the long discourse you had with DRK14, nor as Ive said, am I here to promote his service. The need to warn me is quite meritless and unnecessary; your researching skills miss important facts and advice, repetitive. With your vast knowledge of timeshare consumerism I would hope you could try help those of us that need a real answer and not the time worn ‘put an ad in Redweek or TUGs’. A bit of Bayesian logic applied liberally would help your subjective avatar appear a bit more open minded and hopefully, could help you to become part of the solution, rather than the problem. It takes more than a few mouse clicks to understand why charitynavigator doesnt list CHT as a charity, Id suggest that you follow the money instead.

DRK (you can change your screen name here but you can't run from the TRUTH = also you might look up the word syntax). On TUG they call your operation a Viking Ship .... that pretty much explains how your scam works.

Again, Charity Navigator has no such listing of your socalled charity .... BTW, I don't follow and worship money like you evidently do using scams.

R P.

http://www.ehow.com/how_6719295_report-charitable-fraud-irs.html

R P.

garym480 wrote:
I would hope you could try help those of us that need a real answer and not the time worn ‘put an ad in Redweek or TUGs’.

What's wrong with suggesting using RedWeek or TUG's Bargain Deals? These are legitimate and ethical ways of "disposing" of a timeshare.

A willing recipient who actually wants the timeshare, will use it, and (hold on to your hats for this one)...will actually pay the maintenance fees, will get a good deal for very little money while the original owner will sleep well knowing that helegally and validly got the timeshare out of his name.

So again I ask, what's wrong with suggesting advertising a timeshare on RedWeek or TUG that the owner wants to give away?

Lance C.