Exchange companies.

randy wrote:

robertorvaleriem wrote:

I am not all that thrilled with II. The charge for just about anything you request and ( I know someone will think I am a racist for this comment) it is rare to get an english speaking person when you call. I think they have moved their offices to Cuba. This year we bought just a single year membership as a wait and see measure. If they dont shape up we will go somewhere else next year.

The II book is not trustworthy. It lists units as 4 and 5 star and in our experience we have never had a 5 star exchange. We did have two one star experiences. When I wrote to II to complain they didn't return an response.

So Roberto, What you're saying is that that II's exchange ratings are not reliable. Are you finding better results with the ratings and reviews on RedWeek.com. These come from members themselves rather than a corporate system.

Randy

marty8084 wrote:

adahiscout wrote:

jayjay wrote:

Please read what redweek's staff member Kylie had to say about Powhatan Plantation above in her post:

Hi joanp60,

I have clarified that we CAN take deposits for Powhatan Plantation. Your resort may have only one "official" exchange affiliation with RCI, and not II. But, that exchange affiliation does not prevent you from using an independent exchange company. We have had no problems in the past taking a deposit from Powhatan Plantation, regardless of what they might tell you.

I hope this helps.

Kylie

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Kylie,

We understand that RedWeek has no objection to taking a deposit but how do we get our resorts to make the deposit if they say they can't or won't?

Do you handle it like a travel agent who might rent out a week I own or have reserved and then have me request a guest confirmation for the renter? I suppose that would work (if I'm in town), but it is not quite what we usually mean when we speak of a "deposit with an exchange company." (Also know as "banking a week".)

Please share your solution to this problem. adahiscout

Hi, sorry for the delay in responding. This is all a learning curve for many of us.

We take a letter to the resort that says you gave us permission to take over your week. In most cases, the resort will just hand that week over, and the owner won't need to do any more. In rare cases, the resort may require the owner to treat us like a "guest" and handle the guest certificate.

Thank you, Marty

adahiscout wrote:

marty8084 wrote:

adahiscout wrote:

jayjay wrote:

Please read what redweek's staff member Kylie had to say about Powhatan Plantation above in her post:

Hi joanp60,

I have clarified that we CAN take deposits for Powhatan Plantation. Your resort may have only one "official" exchange affiliation with RCI, and not II. But, that exchange affiliation does not prevent you from using an independent exchange company. We have had no problems in the past taking a deposit from Powhatan Plantation, regardless of what they might tell you.

I hope this helps.

Kylie

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Kylie,

We understand that RedWeek has no objection to taking a deposit but how do we get our resorts to make the deposit if they say they can't or won't?

Do you handle it like a travel agent who might rent out a week I own or have reserved and then have me request a guest confirmation for the renter? I suppose that would work (if I'm in town), but it is not quite what we usually mean when we speak of a "deposit with an exchange company." (Also know as "banking a week".)

Please share your solution to this problem. adahiscout

Hi, sorry for the delay in responding. This is all a learning curve for many of us.

We take a letter to the resort that says you gave us permission to take over your week. In most cases, the resort will just hand that week over, and the owner won't need to do any more. In rare cases, the resort may require the owner to treat us like a "guest" and handle the guest certificate.

Thank you, Marty

===== Thanks, Marty. I was beginning to think you weren't speaking to me! MD

MD, no worries. The exchange questions are all new to me too so sometimes I need to get help with them and it takes a little while to get back with the answers.

Thanks, Marty

I didn't read this entire thread, but I do recall Cindy (a Real Estate Broker) on tug mentioning that some timeshare rsorts fefused o allow trades or exchanges unless contracted with the HOA.

I don't know what could be in Declaration of Condominium (or other condo rules) that might cause this, or allow it to even be enforced.

(Its your owned deeded week).

I'm sure Jay Jay might also have seen that thread (was really a complaint).

Might be wrong, but just a caution.

kekouri wrote:

I didn't read this entire thread, but I do recall Cindy (a Real Estate Broker) on tug mentioning that some timeshare rsorts fefused o allow trades or exchanges unless contracted with the HOA.

I don't know what could be in Declaration of Condominium (or other condo rules) that might cause this, or allow it to even be enforced.

(Its your owned deeded week).

I'm sure Jay Jay might also have seen that thread (was really a complaint).

Might be wrong, but just a caution.

I didn't see the thread, but as long as you own a deeded week with ANY resort you can deposit it with either the exchange company your resort is affiliated with (RCI or II ... some are affiliated with both), any of the independent exchange companies or Redweek. You can also rent the week, give it away, barter it, direct exchange it or whatever else you choose to do with the week.

The only thing you're NOT ALLOWED to do is rent/sell a week that's already been deposited and exchanged with any of the exchange companies.

Trish just posted her problem here:

http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52195

(Its not Cindy..can't find that old post)

Here T/S says its under contract to RCI. Trish quit RCI and wants to give Redweek the unit. See what has developed. Your HOA may say similiar:

jayjay wrote:

kekouri wrote:

I didn't read this entire thread, but I do recall Cindy (a Real Estate Broker) on tug mentioning that some timeshare rsorts fefused o allow trades or exchanges unless contracted with the HOA.

I don't know what could be in Declaration of Condominium (or other condo rules) that might cause this, or allow it to even be enforced.

(Its your owned deeded week).

I'm sure Jay Jay might also have seen that thread (was really a complaint).

Might be wrong, but just a caution.

I didn't see the thread, but as long as you own a deeded week with ANY resort you can deposit it with either the exchange company your resort is affiliated with (RCI or II ... some are affiliated with both), any of the independent exchange companies or Redweek. You can also rent the week, give it away, barter it, direct exchange it or whatever else you choose to do with the week.

The only thing you're NOT ALLOWED to do is rent/sell a week that's already been deposited and exchanged with any of the exchange companies.

And RCI says that RCI POINTS members are contractually bound to either use their home week themselves or allow it to be automatically deposited in RCI. In other words, an RCI POINTS member can never rent out anything (Unless they have other timeshares totally unrelated to RCI POINTS.) MD

adahiscout wrote:

And RCI says that RCI POINTS members are contractually bound to either use their home week themselves or allow it to be automatically deposited in RCI. In other words, an RCI POINTS member can never rent out anything (Unless they have other timeshares totally unrelated to RCI POINTS.) MD

So you're saying that one can't use their RCI points to confirm a week then rent it out even though the confirmation would not be an exchange? Is the correct?

jayjay wrote:

adahiscout wrote:

And RCI says that RCI POINTS members are contractually bound to either use their home week themselves or allow it to be automatically deposited in RCI. In other words, an RCI POINTS member can never rent out anything (Unless they have other timeshares totally unrelated to RCI POINTS.) MD

So you're saying that one can't use their RCI points to confirm a week then rent it out even though the confirmation would not be an exchange? Is the correct?

That is my understanding. I asked "Contact RCI" the following:

"I understand that neither WEEKS nor POINTS members are permitted to rent out weeks received through RCI exchaanges. If a POINTS member chooses to keep his home resort week rather than depositing it with RCI POINTS, may he rent out his owned week just as a "WEEKS member can?"

The RCI Customer Communications Specialist said, "RCI Points members join RCI on a contract basis. Since the membership is committed to RCI for the contract term, RCI Points members cannot rent out their vacation time to other RCI members, as it is a violation of the contract."

I am not sure why she mentions not renting to "other RCI members" specifically. Possibly because I had made some reference to RCI WEEKS. But that does not really seem relevant. Go onto the RCI site and ask if you are still uncertain, but the simple answer seems to be "No". There are 20 pages of rules posted on the website under RCI Weeks Terms and Conditions. MD

adahiscout wrote:

That is my understanding. I asked "Contact RCI" the following:

"I understand that neither WEEKS no POINTS members are permitted to rent out weeks received through RCI exchaanges. If a POINTS member chooses to keep his home resort week rather than depositing it with RCI POINTS, may he rent out his owned week just as a "WEEKS member can?"

The RCI Customer Communications Specialist said, "RCI Points members join RCI on a contract basis. Since the membership is committed to RCI for the contract term, RCI Points members cannot rent out their vacation time to other RCI members, as it is a violation of the contract."

I am not sure why she mentions not renting to "other RCI members" specifically. Possibly because I had made some reference to RCI WEEKS. But that does not really seem relevant. Go onto the RCI site and ask if you are still uncertain, but the simple answer seems to be "No". There are 20 pages of rules posted on the website under RCI Weeks Terms and Conditions. MD

I guess that answers that question. You either have to use your RCI points or deposit them with RCI ... you cannot rent out when you own RCI points.

Jayjay or Kekouri, how do I write you. What are your email addresses?

Thanks!

angelmitc wrote:

Jayjay or Kekouri, how do I write you. What are your email addresses?

Thanks!

To contact members through RedWeek.com please copy and paste these links http://www.redweek.com/member/contact/username/jayjay or http://www.redweek.com/member/contact/username/kekouri

Thanks Marty

I recently tried to deposit a week in II, and I was told that I had to pay for a second membership. My membership is paid through my timeshare with Starwood. And II told me that part of their contract is that I could only deposit/exchange my Starwood timeshare with the membership I pay through Starwood. That I had to pay for a second membership in order to deposit/exchange any other timeshares that I own. So, I deposited this week in RCI, where I had no problem. Even tho my membership in RCI is paid the same way. Has anyone else ran into similar problems with II. Langdonmic

langdonmic wrote:

I recently tried to deposit a week in II, and I was told that I had to pay for a second membership. My membership is paid through my timeshare with Starwood. And II told me that part of their contract is that I could only deposit/exchange my Starwood timeshare with the membership I pay through Starwood. That I had to pay for a second membership in order to deposit/exchange any other timeshares that I own. So, I deposited this week in RCI, where I had no problem. Even tho my membership in RCI is paid the same way. Has anyone else ran into similar problems with II. Langdonmic

===== We had double RCI/II membership through one resort buy. Another of our resorts was RCI only but it subsequently joined II. I called II to ask whether I could now make deposits from that second resort in II as well as RCI. They thought about this and then changed me a fee to have the second resort added. I don't think this was considered an entirely new additional membership. I don't seem to have recorded the fee! (Oops!) MD