General Discussion

SALES TATIICS TO FORCE SALE FROM THE SOURCE

Feb 16, 2020

If you have done an owner update ( sales presentation) understand there are several pitch's which re not true , some have been used past several years by Diamond, Embarc and now have crossed over to Westin and Marriott. WHY? sales people were let go and now work there with this scam pitch. Here it is, 1) freeze your offer( very high, not real price) for 18 months so no pressure to buy today,But amazing there is an offer that has expired, regular price, but have to do today...LIE 2.) Did you come in because of the phone call or email, again just a pitch to scare you...3) If you don't change into new program your inventory will go down and you wont bee able to make a reservation...4) of you add the minimum the company will by back you memberships for what you paid . TOO FUNNY IF YOU FEEL FOR THIS.. stop believing the dumb pitches they are lying....


Kevin D.
Feb 16, 2020

We just had a Sheraton/Marriott presentation and felt it was all ethical. However the one item I was most interested in was a claim that vacation club owners can redeem Bonvoy points (not vacation club points) at 25% of the advertised redemption rate. I have not been able to verify this since?

We turned down the presentation and all the sales team was polite.


Mike A.
Feb 16, 2020

kd160 wrote:
TOO FUNNY IF YOU FEEL FOR THIS.....stop believing the dumb pitches they are lying....

Timeshare sales people are notorious for telling lies and half-truths in these sales pitches. The important thing for buyers is to read what they are signing because what is in the contract is what counts, not what the sales person told them.


Lance C.
Feb 17, 2020

lancec13 wrote:
Timeshare sales people are notorious for telling lies and half-truths in these sales pitches. The important thing for buyers is to read what they are signing because what is in the contract is what counts, not what the sales person told them.

Exactly so. Sales weasel statements are nothing more than meaningless noise floating temporarily around in the air.

If something is not clearly stated in writing within the contract, then that "something" simply does not exist at all.


KC

Last edited by ken1193 on Feb 17, 2020 09:24 AM

Feb 17, 2020

Yes for non owners the system at wetin was very good, since then hotels points that are now Bonvoy have been devalued.

check out points guy for overall value on this

once you an owner they lie


Kevin D.
Feb 17, 2020

Airbnb , VRBO is crushing the timeshre industry, factor investment, maintenance fees over 20 years with compubding interest...not a good investment.

If you really want to buy, buy westin north in maui, best value


Kevin D.
Feb 17, 2020

kd160 wrote:
If you really want to buy, buy westin north in maui, best value

It's only good value if N. Maui is a destination where one would vacation frequently. Remember too that Hawaii timeshares have some of the highest maintenance fees out there.

As for buying timeshares being or not being a good investment, you are correct. They rarely are good investments. They are only investments in an owner's accommodations while vacationing.


Lance C.
Feb 18, 2020

You are correct nest value is use where you want to go etc.. buy Maui and Vail lol then cheap for vacation with the dues,

ALL ELSE JUST JOIN INTERVAL INTERNATIONAL AND FOR A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR HAVE ACCESS TO UNLIMITED GETAWAYS


Kevin D.
Feb 18, 2020

kd160 wrote:
JUST JOIN INTERVAL INTERNATIONAL AND FOR A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR HAVE ACCESS TO UNLIMITED GETAWAYS

To be clear, in order to join Interval International, one must first own a timeshare which is affiliated with II. No such ownership? Can't join II.


KC

Last edited by ken1193 on Feb 19, 2020 03:22 AM


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