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Manhattan Club Internet Offers (by Chris V.):

leon (and other INDIVIDUAL owners),

in my experience with information with TMC, there appear to be no standard procedures (per each individual owner) regarding maintenance fee (m-f) payments among all owners.

the consequences of paying or not paying m-f seem not to be an overall common issue; it is quite individual, and not all with the same end result.

(within the regulations of TMC, payment of m-f fees is a requirement; however, after the lawsuit with the former nys attorney general, eric schneiderman in 2014, there still is definite concern about the validity of our original contract and whether it is still in legal effect.)

notwithstanding the parenthetical paragraph above, determination to pay m-f or not has different effects concerning the position of each owner, e.g., if they are working with an attorney active in legislation within the context of a lawsuit. that attorney should be in a position to analyze individual client's needs, responsibilities, and situations regarding m-f payments and the consequences thereof.

it appears that the most decisive way to determine the result of non-m-f payment is to consult with an attorney, preferably one who is familiar with the TMC case and all of its intricacies and with each individual owner's circumstances.

regarding leon's individual comments, keep in mind, i do not claim legal expertise. however, i have a good handle on the modus operandi and movement of TMC' s managerial staff; i write ONLY FROM AN EXPERIENTIAL PERSPECTIVE, HAVING BEEN AN OWNER FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS.

not paying m-f depends largely on your situation and whether you have an attorney familiar with our case vs TMC. ..." What does TMC do? Letters, telephone calls?" TMC does what it wants to do when it wants to do it. i have no trust whatsoever in the TMC management and/or operations. they began the TMC operation fraudulently some 20+ years ago and continue to maintain that fraudulent position currently. as others in high positions often do, TMC management places itself above the law. no one is above the law.

personally, i would not permit TMC to keep my credit card info on file. if TMC has this information, have them remove it and send you an email proving that they have done so---establishing a "paper trail." if you noted that TMC charged your credit card, try to have the cc company deny payment. if you have not yet paid m-f, but prefer to do so, DO NOT EVER PAY IN ADVANCE.

regarding m-f payment (if you pay at all) do it via check -S-, one for the actual m-f, and one for your share of the nyc/nys property tax.

keep in touch. stay healthy!!

chris

leonaedh wrote:

Chris V

Thanks for your comments. I need advice. I have been an owner since 1998 and always paid maintenance fee on time. Now I do not want to pay because of all the issues. Those that have not paid. Please tell me what happens. What does TMC do? Letters, telephone calls? How does TMC try to get maintenance fee? Letter detailing charge or Putting it on an existing credit card as they usually do. This is wrong. If They do this do you stop payment? My year ends February 2021. When should I expect TMC looking for the maintenance fee.?