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Re: Manhattan Club Lawsuit (by Chris V.):

nathan, begin with BREVITY in the comments you made right here. it doesn't describe the length of your paragraph. you might want to revise it to make it shorter. yes, i offer MY OPINIONS (WHICH I HAVE CLEARLY STATED DO NOT EMANATE FROM ANY LEGAL EXPERTISE). and yes, how good my advice depends on owners wishes to think FOR THEMSELVES about their choices (i hope you believe in owners' CHOICES) of how they want to proceed in making themselves financially sound again, a privilege removed from them by EICHNER/TMC in the timeshare arena. the former litigator, nysag, eric schneiderman proved business TMC fraud (a crime, as i believe he stated) by his undercover investigators posing as purchasers and sitting in on sales presentations. this information was used in his legal presentation, albeit the end results of his case were beyond unsatisfactory, a SETTLEMENT, indeed..........worthless. "and uses lots of legal sounding phrases and accusations of "proven" crimes" your quote...........fraud was proven, not by me but by the nysag. yes I spent time considering my legal options. am i not permitted to chose my path AND TO HAVE OTHERS CONSIDER IT AS WELL? are you suggesting that owners who joined our COALITION are not able to think for themselves and to follow another unproven path? and again, yes the path of COALITION is currently unproven, as is mr zimmerman's. and si (to add some variety). the COALITION and its followers are not so nieve (and followers were made aware of the following intention) to believe that we could proceed eventually without attorneys directly qualified (via our research) in timeshare litigation. will we succeed? naysayers obvious say no. will owners and zimmerman succeed, up for grabs as well. also, please look up the word COALITION. it encompasses people with similar ideas to reach specific goals. if you wish to give it a GRANDIOSE MONIKER thanks; it makes appear so much more GRANDIOSE, which was never our intention, but again, thanks. the COALITION HAS NO SECRETS or anything up our collective sleeves. we are upfront, truthful and honorable in this forum and with our group of owners. if anyone believes we are concealing any hidden agendas or motives, please ask us to stop. we are, by no means in competition, with any other entities that are working in all owners' behalves. please delete that from your memory banks. in fact if we were asked to join other paths to reach similar goals, we would welcome the opportunity to consider that option.

until then, i will be (as i have been made painfully and boringly aware of) wordy in my comments, overpowering brevity as i find essential and necessary. fyi, i have enrolled in BREVITY LESSONS SEMINARS starting in 2025.

in unity and cooperation, chris

No doubt Chris has been a great part of the forum, certainly as measured by volume. And he gives lots of advice. I leave it to anyone who has taken it to say how good it is. What is consistent is that he keeps talking about "retribution" and uses lots of legal sounding phrases and accusations of "proven" crimes - even though this is a civil matter and he's no lawyer. He spent weeks vacillating on whether or not to retain Zimmerman and complaining about not receiving answers or responses to his questions before he retained him. Now he is the "co-founder" of the grandiosely named "coalition" which muddies the waters further. It has goals but no means to accomplish them, does not help the existing effort, but provides the illusion of action for those on the sidelines. I believe there is a strategic reason Zimmerman has not disclosed how many clients have retained his firm; most likely he has also advised his clients not to make public statements. So what might your objectives be?