IBD-MARKETING . HAS ANYONE HEARD OF OR DEALT WITH THEM ?

If they charge an upfront listing fee, don't do business with them. You will more than likely never hear from them again once they get your upfront money.

I DID AND I THINK THEY ARE A RIP OFF

sheilaswangerworkflowonecoms wrote:

I DID AND I THINK THEY ARE A RIP OFF

SO DID YOU LIST WITH THEM AND WHAT HAPPENED ? I HAVE BEEN GETING CALLS FROM A BRIAN DAVIS AND HE PUTS ON A GOOD SALES PITCH, BUT SOMETHING JUST DIDN;T SEEM RIGHT. THEY WANT THE UP FRONT PRICE OF $689 (WITH AN AARP DISCOUNT WHICH I'M NOT OLD ENOUGH TO BE A MEMBER OF ) . WITH ALL THE UP FRONT FEE WARNINGS TOLD OF HERE I HAVEN'T LISTED WITH THEM.

i'm tryin get my money back. that have a wesite but it is just there's and they don't do anything after they get your money.

i listed with them and haven't herd from them, it's been about 3 or 4 weeks, he said (johnny) i'm on my way to orlando, i have someone interested in your timeshare right now, yea sure. they .also said red week will never get my timeshare solod either, which it has been posted about 2 months now. what to do??

Ah, the lies the upfront fee salespeople spew.

You CAN sell your timeshare yourself on Redweek if you price it right. The upfront fee salesperson (johnnny) probably quoted you an unrealistic price of what your timeshare is supposedly worth so he could get your upfront fee, although he KNEW that you would never get anywhere near that amount on the resale market.

Keep dropping your price on Redweek until you start getting some emails. You will take a substanital loss on your timeshare if you bought from the developer or if you overpaid via resale.

lourdes17 wrote:

i listed with them and haven't herd from them, it's been about 3 or 4 weeks, he said (johnny) i'm on my way to orlando, i have someone interested in your timeshare right now, yea sure. they .also said red week will never get my timeshare solod either, which it has been posted about 2 months now. what to do??

yes i foolishly rented my time share with them for $300 they tried to get more in cash if i wanted to sell it later should have known then. this was 2 months ago an of course was told it will be rented in a month at most. i called after 6 weeks and was told a very different story and that i couldnt get my money back because we had a legal agreement but it could take 4months im sure thats a lie also. i listed my timeshare for free at rentmytimeshare.com and now have 2 people fighting over it! DONT EVER PAY UPFRONT FOR THIS. this site also will let you list it to sell also

hi there i'm not interested in renting my timeshare, i need to sell it asap. i change my price by 500.00, can anyone provide any other websites that i can list it in??? thanks

lourdes17 wrote:

hi there i'm not interested in renting my timeshare, i need to sell it asap. i change my price by 500.00, can anyone provide any other websites that i can list it in??? thanks

You can list your timeshare on www.tug2.net You can also list it on www.timeshareforums.com Try www.vacationtimesharerentals.com and www.myresortnetwork.com as well.

We have had success with Redweek, but I am sorry to say that our best responses for buyers and renters has been through www.myresortnetwork.com

I would never do business with any of these companies, as they are all scammers. Any company that takes that much money upfront for selling a timeshare is just running a scam.

I have never had any luck selling timeshares via Tug. My luck was with Redweek, MyResortNetwork and Bidshares where I sold 9 timeshare weeks. I priced them very reasonably at what I bought them for resale, however I lost money on the developer bought timeshare (typical).

With all the discussions about pricing your timeshare at a marketable rate on Tug, that mantra seems to have fallen on deaf ears with many Tug members and they price their timeshares far above market value (market value is what a buyer is willing to pay for a certain timeshare) and some members even price their timeshares at what they paid the developer.

Also, timeshareforums doesn't get enough traffic for anyone to sell a timeshare there. It's a site with very few members and very little traffic.

cynthia281 wrote:

You can list your timeshare on www.tug2.net You can also list it on www.timeshareforums.com Try www.vacationtimesharerentals.com and www.myresortnetwork.com as well.

We have had success with Redweek, but I am sorry to say that our best responses for buyers and renters has been through www.myresortnetwork.com

timesharejudi paulgrzesik sheilaswangerworkflowonecoms

paulgrzesik wrote:

I have been getting calls from IBD MARKETING (Integrated Business Dynamics) ABOUT LISTING MY TIMESHARE. I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS DEALT WITH THEM. THANKS

To all you folks out there who are wrong in your interpretation of IBD-Marketing. First and foremost, be careful from whom you get advice. There are always a few bad apples in the bunch of thousands of satisfied clients who have done business with IBD and other competent companies in the industry. You pay a fee to the store when you go and purchase your groceries but you didn't see it because they enclosed it in the sell of the grocery. It is no different in a purchase of an automobile, stock, homes, etc. They just disclose it in another way than saying it is a marketing fee. They don't have the integrity to come out an tell you it is the cost of doing business when you own something. Every company in the country has to pay contract fees, legal fees, processing fees, governmental fees as they want their piece of the pie to conduct business in the state of operation and so on. First of all you need to ask for Paul not Brian who ever he is and I will speak with Johnnie, if he is the same one about this particular complaint to see if there is any validity in it. A sellers property does get marketed and bids are sent to the owners for acceptance from potential buyers. Ask the real estate broker how much they are making on their deal. Believe me, they want tell you and they do not want to be exposed here. It will cost you a lot more to do business with them that is if it ever sells. Ask them how they are going about getting you the potential buyers you need for the sale of your property. IBD-Marketing is not a scam resale company and is a regulated company by the State of Florida. You filled out a request to sell your timeshare and IBD-Marketing can help you fulfill the need to market your timeshare and receive bids from the us in regards to the future sale of your property. If you paid anyone a commission to sale your timeshare property then you better check the the numbers in front of the percentage sign which will read in the high 30's to 40's. Don't believe it if you think you are going to get out of paying their insurmountable fees and taxes as well. Call a realtor or a mortgage broker and find out how they market a timeshare then call me. Let me ask you this, is your company paying for your contract fee, attorney's fee, registration fees, licensing and bonding fees, presentation fees, overhead and cost of doing business fees to bring pre-qualified buyers to the marketplace??? I sincerely doubt it and if you say they are then you need your head examined. How are they marketing your property? Who is paying their overhead to keep them in business? IF you are paying a commission you have a right to know where the thousands are being used. IBD doesn't charge an upfront fee or charge you high commission fees which incur thousands of dollars. There are marketing fees associated with the cost of marketing and contracting YOUR property. Since when should I pay for your attorney's fees, binding contract, costs to the State, costs to bring a finance company to the marketplace, registration fees, quick deed change, court costs, and presentation fees which can add up to anywhere from $1400 to $2000 dollars and IBD doesn't charge the seller the full amount of those fees. Get your story straight before you go accusing someone such as my company or myself. Every timeshare has a potential for sell; however, the owner of the property has the right of refusal on the bids he or she receives regarding the sale of the property and you will receive bids from the firm price which is set by the owner of the property to the negotiable price of listing. There are no commissions, closing costs, or hidden fees with my company. You have a lot to learn regarding marketing, overhead and what it takes to manage and run a business and bring credible purchasers to the marketplace. Do you self a favor and see if your internet web lister has sent everyone out there all the right keyword searches to market your property on Google and when they get there direct you to you very own listing in the middle of a dozen others. We aggressively manage presentations at special invitations to get people to make a decision on buying your property. Email me and I will prove to you what it takes to bring buyers to the marketplace in search for a reasonable priced timeshare and check out our testimonials if you do not think we market the properties to potential buyers. By the way, Cynthia, I don't make any money off your small investment to market your investment. When was the last time you paid a lawyer's bill or performed a transaction or registered your company for means of ascertaining bids for potential sales or paid any overhead to the State or to a licensed and bonded finance company? $250.00 + $175.00 + state fees-approx. $350.00 + costs to register the transaction + $1200.00-presentation fees.......... and so on and so on.......... Apparently, Cynthia never took a course of Business 101 or conducted a budget or marketing analysis and how is this a scam when sellers are receiving their monies through Tammac Financial for the sell of the timeshare. The realtor says they are paying your fees upfront for you to market your property.....what a joke because if your property never sells then how are they ever going to recoop their fees and stay in business. Are they promising you that your timeshare will sell if you let them sign the dotted line. I can't force people to accept the bids I send them and so folks will change their minds and keep the timeshare after all. If I truly believe that one then we all would be rich because we all could sell our property to this person who would pay all our fees for us. As long as it didn't cost me more than 6% and I know thay not to be true unless it is on a sale of a home worth over $30,000. They can't pass a $300.00 appraisal fee off to you to cover there cost because there are none in timeshares. For all of those folks having problems out there... the website is IBD-Marketing.com. Also, there are those who always expect others to pay for them, want something absolutely free and not have to do anything for someone to lay thousands of dollars in their hands and for them not to have to pay a penny. These folks you are listening to are the real scammers and ......well I have integrity and will not lower my standards to say what I really wanted to say! Where are the hundreds of thousands of names of unsatisfied clients. We have been in business for over 7 years and participated in bringing thousands of buyers to the marketplace for the sellers. All I see and hear here on this forum are a few complainers and folks that never did business with us or folks who are trying to get you to come over to them with their scheme and not telling you how much it is going to cost you once you do business with them. They probably do not even own anything and just like throwing their opinions around.

paulc226 timesharejudi paulgrzesik

sheilaswangerworkflowonecoms wrote:

paulgrzesik wrote:

I have been getting calls from IBD MARKETING (Integrated Business Dynamics) ABOUT LISTING MY TIMESHARE. I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS DEALT WITH THEM. THANKS

To all you folks out there who are wrong in your interpretation of IBD-Marketing. First and foremost, be careful from whom you get advice. There are always a few bad apples in the bunch of thousands of satisfied clients who have done business with IBD and other competent companies in the industry. You pay a fee to the store when you go and purchase your groceries but you didn't see it because they enclosed it in the sell of the grocery. It is no different in a purchase of an automobile, stock, homes, etc. They just disclose it in another way than saying it is a marketing fee. They don't have the integrity to come out an tell you it is the cost of doing business when you own something. Every company in the country has to pay contract fees, legal fees, processing fees, governmental fees as they want their piece of the pie to conduct business in the state of operation and so on. First of all you need to ask for Paul not Brian who ever he is and I will speak with Johnnie, if he is the same one about this particular complaint to see if there is any validity in it. A sellers property does get marketed and bids are sent to the owners for acceptance from potential buyers. Ask the real estate broker how much they are making on their deal. Believe me, they want tell you and they do not want to be exposed here. It will cost you a lot more to do business with them that is if it ever sells. Ask them how they are going about getting you the potential buyers you need for the sale of your property. IBD-Marketing is not a scam resale company and is a regulated company by the State of Florida. You filled out a request to sell your timeshare and IBD-Marketing can help you fulfill the need to market your timeshare and receive bids from the us in regards to the future sale of your property. If you paid anyone a commission to sale your timeshare property then you better check the the numbers in front of the percentage sign which will read in the high 30's to 40's. Don't believe it if you think you are going to get out of paying their insurmountable fees and taxes as well. Call a realtor or a mortgage broker and find out how they market a timeshare then call me. Let me ask you this, is your company paying for your contract fee, attorney's fee, registration fees, licensing and bonding fees, presentation fees, overhead and cost of doing business fees to bring pre-qualified buyers to the marketplace??? I sincerely doubt it and if you say they are then you need your head examined. How are they marketing your property? Who is paying their overhead to keep them in business? IF you are paying a commission you have a right to know where the thousands are being used. IBD doesn't charge an upfront fee or charge you high commission fees which incur thousands of dollars. There are marketing fees associated with the cost of marketing and contracting YOUR property. Since when should I pay for your attorney's fees, binding contract, costs to the State, costs to bring a finance company to the marketplace, registration fees, quick deed change, court costs, and presentation fees which can add up to anywhere from $1400 to $2000 dollars and IBD doesn't charge the seller the full amount of those fees. Get your story straight before you go accusing someone such as my company or myself. Every timeshare has a potential for sell; however, the owner of the property has the right of refusal on the bids he or she receives regarding the sale of the property and you will receive bids from the firm price which is set by the owner of the property to the negotiable price of listing. There are no commissions, closing costs, or hidden fees with my company. You have a lot to learn regarding marketing, overhead and what it takes to manage and run a business and bring credible purchasers to the marketplace. Do you self a favor and see if your internet web lister has sent everyone out there all the right keyword searches to market your property on Google and when they get there direct you to you very own listing in the middle of a dozen others. We aggressively manage presentations at special invitations to get people to make a decision on buying your property. Email me and I will prove to you what it takes to bring buyers to the marketplace in search for a reasonable priced timeshare and check out our testimonials if you do not think we market the properties to potential buyers. By the way, Cynthia, I don't make any money off your small investment to market your investment. When was the last time you paid a lawyer's bill or performed a transaction or registered your company for means of ascertaining bids for potential sales or paid any overhead to the State or to a licensed and bonded finance company? $250.00 + $175.00 + state fees-approx. $350.00 + costs to register the transaction + $1200.00-presentation fees.......... and so on and so on.......... Apparently, Cynthia never took a course of Business 101 or conducted a budget or marketing analysis and how is this a scam when sellers are receiving their monies through Tammac Financial for the sell of the timeshare. The realtor says they are paying your fees upfront for you to market your property.....what a joke because if your property never sells then how are they ever going to recoop their fees and stay in business. Are they promising you that your timeshare will sell if you let them sign the dotted line. I can't force people to accept the bids I send them and so folks will change their minds and keep the timeshare after all. If I truly believe that one then we all would be rich because we all could sell our property to this person who would pay all our fees for us. As long as it didn't cost me more than 6% and I know thay not to be true unless it is on a sale of a home worth over $30,000. They can't pass a $300.00 appraisal fee off to you to cover there cost because there are none in timeshares. For all of those folks having problems out there... the website is IBD-Marketing.com. Also, there are those who always expect others to pay for them, want something absolutely free and not have to do anything for someone to lay thousands of dollars in their hands and for them not to have to pay a penny. These folks you are listening to are the real scammers and ......well I have integrity and will not lower my standards to say what I really wanted to say! Where are the hundreds of thousands of names of unsatisfied clients. We have been in business for over 7 years and participated in bringing thousands of buyers to the marketplace for the sellers. All I see and hear here on this forum are a few complainers and folks that never did business with us or folks who are trying to get you to come over to them with their scheme and not telling you how much it is going to cost you once you do business with them. They probably do not even own anything and just like throwing their opinions around.

Just wondering who is the regulatory agency that regulates IBD Marketing that you refer to in your comments.

timesharejudi paulc226 timesharejudi

paulgrzesik wrote:

sheilaswangerworkflowonecoms wrote:

paulgrzesik wrote:

I have been getting calls from IBD MARKETING (Integrated Business Dynamics) ABOUT LISTING MY TIMESHARE. I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS DEALT WITH THEM. THANKS

To all you folks out there who are wrong in your interpretation of IBD-Marketing. First and foremost, be careful from whom you get advice. There are always a few bad apples in the bunch of thousands of satisfied clients who have done business with IBD and other competent companies in the industry. You pay a fee to the store when you go and purchase your groceries but you didn't see it because they enclosed it in the sell of the grocery. It is no different in a purchase of an automobile, stock, homes, etc. They just disclose it in another way than saying it is a marketing fee. They don't have the integrity to come out an tell you it is the cost of doing business when you own something. Every company in the country has to pay contract fees, legal fees, processing fees, governmental fees as they want their piece of the pie to conduct business in the state of operation and so on. First of all you need to ask for Paul not Brian who ever he is and I will speak with Johnnie, if he is the same one about this particular complaint to see if there is any validity in it. A sellers property does get marketed and bids are sent to the owners for acceptance from potential buyers. Ask the real estate broker how much they are making on their deal. Believe me, they want tell you and they do not want to be exposed here. It will cost you a lot more to do business with them that is if it ever sells. Ask them how they are going about getting you the potential buyers you need for the sale of your property. IBD-Marketing is not a scam resale company and is a regulated company by the State of Florida. You filled out a request to sell your timeshare and IBD-Marketing can help you fulfill the need to market your timeshare and receive bids from the us in regards to the future sale of your property. If you paid anyone a commission to sale your timeshare property then you better check the the numbers in front of the percentage sign which will read in the high 30's to 40's. Don't believe it if you think you are going to get out of paying their insurmountable fees and taxes as well. Call a realtor or a mortgage broker and find out how they market a timeshare then call me. Let me ask you this, is your company paying for your contract fee, attorney's fee, registration fees, licensing and bonding fees, presentation fees, overhead and cost of doing business fees to bring pre-qualified buyers to the marketplace??? I sincerely doubt it and if you say they are then you need your head examined. How are they marketing your property? Who is paying their overhead to keep them in business? IF you are paying a commission you have a right to know where the thousands are being used. IBD doesn't charge an upfront fee or charge you high commission fees which incur thousands of dollars. There are marketing fees associated with the cost of marketing and contracting YOUR property. Since when should I pay for your attorney's fees, binding contract, costs to the State, costs to bring a finance company to the marketplace, registration fees, quick deed change, court costs, and presentation fees which can add up to anywhere from $1400 to $2000 dollars and IBD doesn't charge the seller the full amount of those fees. Get your story straight before you go accusing someone such as my company or myself. Every timeshare has a potential for sell; however, the owner of the property has the right of refusal on the bids he or she receives regarding the sale of the property and you will receive bids from the firm price which is set by the owner of the property to the negotiable price of listing. There are no commissions, closing costs, or hidden fees with my company. You have a lot to learn regarding marketing, overhead and what it takes to manage and run a business and bring credible purchasers to the marketplace. Do you self a favor and see if your internet web lister has sent everyone out there all the right keyword searches to market your property on Google and when they get there direct you to you very own listing in the middle of a dozen others. We aggressively manage presentations at special invitations to get people to make a decision on buying your property. Email me and I will prove to you what it takes to bring buyers to the marketplace in search for a reasonable priced timeshare and check out our testimonials if you do not think we market the properties to potential buyers. By the way, Cynthia, I don't make any money off your small investment to market your investment. When was the last time you paid a lawyer's bill or performed a transaction or registered your company for means of ascertaining bids for potential sales or paid any overhead to the State or to a licensed and bonded finance company? $250.00 + $175.00 + state fees-approx. $350.00 + costs to register the transaction + $1200.00-presentation fees.......... and so on and so on.......... Apparently, Cynthia never took a course of Business 101 or conducted a budget or marketing analysis and how is this a scam when sellers are receiving their monies through Tammac Financial for the sell of the timeshare. The realtor says they are paying your fees upfront for you to market your property.....what a joke because if your property never sells then how are they ever going to recoop their fees and stay in business. Are they promising you that your timeshare will sell if you let them sign the dotted line. I can't force people to accept the bids I send them and so folks will change their minds and keep the timeshare after all. If I truly believe that one then we all would be rich because we all could sell our property to this person who would pay all our fees for us. As long as it didn't cost me more than 6% and I know thay not to be true unless it is on a sale of a home worth over $30,000. They can't pass a $300.00 appraisal fee off to you to cover there cost because there are none in timeshares. For all of those folks having problems out there... the website is IBD-Marketing.com. Also, there are those who always expect others to pay for them, want something absolutely free and not have to do anything for someone to lay thousands of dollars in their hands and for them not to have to pay a penny. These folks you are listening to are the real scammers and ......well I have integrity and will not lower my standards to say what I really wanted to say! Where are the hundreds of thousands of names of unsatisfied clients. We have been in business for over 7 years and participated in bringing thousands of buyers to the marketplace for the sellers. All I see and hear here on this forum are a few complainers and folks that never did business with us or folks who are trying to get you to come over to them with their scheme and not telling you how much it is going to cost you once you do business with them. They probably do not even own anything and just like throwing their opinions around.

Just wondering who is the regulatory agency that regulates IBD Marketing that you refer to in your comments.

Your words prove how scummy you are. You don't know anything at all about me. I am a real estate broker, licensed in Colorado, and I am a member of the National Association of Realtors and the Colorado Association of Realtors.

wow, all i want to know is the status of my timeshare why no one has called us???, plus johnny was suppose to send us a packet at the time of dealing and he never did. if your the owner do Something about it. he's not folling up correctly. i have no problems with what you wrote, but i do have A problem with your lack of follow up procedures. i looked you up in bbb before doing business with you and know you have a good reputation with them, but how are you going to sell my timeshare if we don't even have a written up contract because i never got the paper work. again if you the owner make the sititation correct. thank you

This guy is a con artist, plain and simple. He talks a good talk because that is what they do. The guy has no intention of selling your timeshare because that would require work. They were already paid, so they aren't going to work for you, because where is the incentive?

When you list your house for sale, the Realtor must advertise, list it on the local MLS, put a sign on the property, show it to buyers, hold open houses, etc. All of these things, the Realtor does at no cost, in hopes of selling your house and helping you to buy a new home that better serves your needs. If you change your mind, the Realtor is out some money but that is the way it works. You are going to call that person again, when you decide to sell, because that person charged you nothing for their time and that leaves a good taste in your mouth.

I cannot even find a website for these guys and I searched for the company's name.

Bottomline: Don't believe the hype, it is the talk of a con artist that is out to get your money. They talk about how nothing is free in this world and you need to pay to list your timeshare, otherwise you will never sell. PLEASE! You can sell your timeshare week here yourself, as long as you ask a decent price. Timeshare weeks do not hold their values at all. Very few are worth even half of their original cost.

The true value of a timeshare is not in reselling, but it is in using it or renting it. Go to www.tug2.net and learn how to use your timeshare to your advantage. All of us on TUG are lovers of timeshare and can help you remember why you bought in the first place. Many of us bought timeshare from developers originally and have had to accept the truth, that our timeshares have lost value and cannot be sold for anywhere near what we paid. We commisserate with those who are disenchanted with their ownerships, but we will help you get what you want from it. I am rickandcindy23 on TUG. The site is free, but you can join for just $15 for a year, which allows you into the resort reviews and a few other places that non-members can't see. We will welcome you there!

sheilaswangerworkflowonecoms wrote:

sheilaswangerworkflowonecoms wrote:

I DID AND I THINK THEY ARE A RIP OFF

SO DID YOU LIST WITH THEM AND WHAT HAPPENED ? I HAVE BEEN GETING CALLS FROM A BRIAN DAVIS AND HE PUTS ON A GOOD SALES PITCH, BUT SOMETHING JUST DIDN;T SEEM RIGHT. THEY WANT THE UP FRONT PRICE OF $689 (WITH AN AARP DISCOUNT WHICH I'M NOT OLD ENOUGH TO BE A MEMBER OF ) . WITH ALL THE UP FRONT FEE WARNINGS TOLD OF HERE I HAVEN'T LISTED WITH THEM.

I'm inclined to agree with your RIP OFF assessment. A IBD ""Timeshare Marketing Specialist has been calling me regularly since about May 10. The items he e-mailed to me are not very convincing and neither is the "Money-Back Guarantee." His verbally stated up front price is less than half of the $689 you mentioned, and he alleges IBD will send me a $500 gift certificate if my Red Week 21 is not sold within 90 days. IBD refuses to provide verifiable references. A reputable timeshare seller in my city advises strongly against paying up front fees, especially if the organization demands yoiur credit card number & expiration date.

I am looking for IBD Marketing references and info about complaints registered with BBBs and state Real Estate Commissions.

We are interested in selling our timeshare with sunterra resort. I have been contacted by IBD-Marketing and they tell me I can get $21,000 for my timeshare but I have to pay upfront $882 to market it and for a title search. Is the legitament. I don't have money to loose so the $882 is a lot to come up with. I am selling my timeshare due to financial problems so that is why the upfront fee is a lot of money to come up with. They make a great pitch but I would be interested in hearing honest and true information about the company, their reliability. I want to deal with a company that is honest and will do what they say. I don't expect them to do this for free but I was shocked at the amount they wanted. Thanks for any info you can provide.